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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FireLance" data-source="post: 4935615" data-attributes="member: 3424">By the rules, Weapon Focus and Dwarven Weapon Training would add to the damage rolls of an appropriate weapon even when it is used as an implement. This is because the feats simply add a bonus to damage rolls with the weapon. However, in most cases, feats add a feat bonus to damage rolls, so only the highest bonus applies. Hence, at the Heroic and Paragon tiers, it would be pointless to take Weapon Focus (Axes) or Weapon Focus (Hammers) if you already have Dwarven Weapon Training since you do not get any additional benefit for those feats.Weapon Expertise is different as it specifies that you get the bonus to attack rolls "with any weapon power you use". Hence, you would not gain the benefit when you use the weapon as an implement. In order to gain the bonus to both weapon powers and implement powers, you would need the Focused Expertise feat from the monk preview in Dragon 375.Some DMs may not like the idea that feats like Weapon Focus and Dwarven Weapon Training add a bonus to damage rolls even when the weapon is used as an implement and may house-rule that Weapon Focus and similar feats only add a bonus to damage rolls with weapon powers. Hence, despite what the rules say, it is probably best to check with your DM.</blockquote>