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<blockquote data-quote="Halivar" data-source="post: 1143727" data-attributes="member: 9327">Well, considering that mass combat typically means armies of several thousand combatants on a side (sometimes in excess of 50,000, sometimes more) I would not think you could raise the funds to make them all level 20 sorcerors with wands of Summon Monster IX, or outfit them all with +5 100% fortified full-plate.&nbsp; The most you would probably see would be support units casting fireball, icestorm, chain lightning, or other somesuch stuff, and elite fighter units with magic full-plate.&nbsp;&nbsp;I'm just saying that, generally, units comprised entirely of combative spellcasters&nbsp; can be treated as renaissance artillery units.&nbsp;&nbsp;Attack bonus can be meted out for the following:&nbsp;- Units of fighters instead of warriors.&nbsp;- For each class level past first if the entire unit is advanced&nbsp;- For magical weapons&nbsp;- If everyone in the unit has strength enhancements&nbsp;&nbsp;Defense bonuses can be given for:&nbsp;- If everyone in the unit has dexterity bonuses&nbsp;- If everyone has magical protection, armor-based or otherwise.&nbsp;&nbsp;Remember that the obscenely powerful magic stuff in D&amp;D is for adventures for extraordinairey people.&nbsp; The grunts in your armies are going to be very ordinairey folks.&nbsp; Not everyone in a standing army is going to be a level 5 fighter, or even level 2.&nbsp; Most will not have any magical enhancements.&nbsp;&nbsp;Just my thoughts.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Halivar, post: 1143727, member: 9327"] Well, considering that mass combat typically means armies of several thousand combatants on a side (sometimes in excess of 50,000, sometimes more) I would not think you could raise the funds to make them all level 20 sorcerors with wands of [i]Summon Monster IX[/i], or outfit them all with +5 100% fortified full-plate. The most you would probably see would be support units casting fireball, icestorm, chain lightning, or other somesuch stuff, and elite fighter units with magic full-plate. I'm just saying that, generally, units comprised entirely of combative spellcasters can be treated as renaissance artillery units. Attack bonus can be meted out for the following: - Units of fighters instead of warriors. - For each class level past first if the entire unit is advanced - For magical weapons - If everyone in the unit has strength enhancements Defense bonuses can be given for: - If everyone in the unit has dexterity bonuses - If everyone has magical protection, armor-based or otherwise. Remember that the obscenely powerful magic stuff in D&D is for adventures for [i]extraordinairey[/i] people. The grunts in your armies are going to be very [i]ordinairey[/i] folks. Not everyone in a standing army is going to be a level 5 fighter, or even level 2. Most will not have any magical enhancements. Just my thoughts. [/QUOTE]

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