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Crystal Ball: A year in, how do you think 5E will unfold going forward?
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<blockquote data-quote="DaveDash" data-source="post: 6624191" data-attributes="member: 6786202"><p>Fixed for you, and not a very good example. If anything a "classic" example of scope creep are U.S. military projects, like the M2A2 Bradley, etc.</p><p>Scope creep is when the stakeholders (usually the customer) adds in new stuff into the project before it's been completed - which is bad for fixed price projects, but not bad at all for other projects such as agile/t&m, which are designed with scope creep in mind. </p><p>In a D&D context, scope creep would be piling more and more stuff into Princes of the Apocalypses, delaying the release, pushing the price up, etc.</p><p></p><p>While I think there is 'adequate' content for 5e and Corpsetaker is unable to see the forest for the trees in regards to that, he does have a point. When we played 3rd edition we never really went outside of core. Everyone had a blast. This idea that more books = YOU MUST BUY THEM AND THEY WILL RUIN YOUR GAME is simply not true.</p><p></p><p>The actual real fact of the matter is more books = diminishing returns for a company. Pazio has found a way to be successful at it, and a lot of people are invested in that model. Wizards have not found a way to be successful at it, the feedback they got saying a good portion of their custom base wasn't interested in it was the icing on the cake for them.</p><p></p><p>Splat books are appealing to players, not DM's, because they put power in the hands of players and take power out of the hands of the DM. It's why there will always be a divide between pathfinder and D&D, and why pathfinder is not going away any time soon. That model however is valid, appealing, and successful in the right hands. Huge portions of players love to be able to mess with crunch heavy builds, and have that level of power they will not get from 5e. </p><p>WoTC has wisely decided they cannot simply compete with Pazio, nor be successful with this kind of business model. They're maximizing RoI (No splatbooks) to keep D&D alive as long as possible, and grow the brand through other more appealing revenue streams.</p><p></p><p>The statement "Splatbooks are bad" is simply not true. Splatbooks are great for Pazio and pathfinder players. The statement "Splatbooks have been deemed bad by Wizards of the Coast for Dungeons and Dragons" is more factually and conceptually correct.</p><p></p><p>EDIT: Edited for clarity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DaveDash, post: 6624191, member: 6786202"] Fixed for you, and not a very good example. If anything a "classic" example of scope creep are U.S. military projects, like the M2A2 Bradley, etc. Scope creep is when the stakeholders (usually the customer) adds in new stuff into the project before it's been completed - which is bad for fixed price projects, but not bad at all for other projects such as agile/t&m, which are designed with scope creep in mind. In a D&D context, scope creep would be piling more and more stuff into Princes of the Apocalypses, delaying the release, pushing the price up, etc. While I think there is 'adequate' content for 5e and Corpsetaker is unable to see the forest for the trees in regards to that, he does have a point. When we played 3rd edition we never really went outside of core. Everyone had a blast. This idea that more books = YOU MUST BUY THEM AND THEY WILL RUIN YOUR GAME is simply not true. The actual real fact of the matter is more books = diminishing returns for a company. Pazio has found a way to be successful at it, and a lot of people are invested in that model. Wizards have not found a way to be successful at it, the feedback they got saying a good portion of their custom base wasn't interested in it was the icing on the cake for them. Splat books are appealing to players, not DM's, because they put power in the hands of players and take power out of the hands of the DM. It's why there will always be a divide between pathfinder and D&D, and why pathfinder is not going away any time soon. That model however is valid, appealing, and successful in the right hands. Huge portions of players love to be able to mess with crunch heavy builds, and have that level of power they will not get from 5e. WoTC has wisely decided they cannot simply compete with Pazio, nor be successful with this kind of business model. They're maximizing RoI (No splatbooks) to keep D&D alive as long as possible, and grow the brand through other more appealing revenue streams. The statement "Splatbooks are bad" is simply not true. Splatbooks are great for Pazio and pathfinder players. The statement "Splatbooks have been deemed bad by Wizards of the Coast for Dungeons and Dragons" is more factually and conceptually correct. EDIT: Edited for clarity. [/QUOTE]
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