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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 3647753" data-attributes="member: 11697">The Prime is the Prime. One plane, many worlds/spheres/planets/etc.Planescape tended to give lip service to the SJ material, but mostly it just didn't concern itself with the particulars of the prime material plane's makeup. The various worlds of the prime material, however they were arranged, still pumped out petitioners and belief that molded and shaped the Outer Planes, and of course, they provided all manner of mortal planewalkers, be they informed or clueless. If you look hard enough you'll find the occasional overt SJ reference, like an illithid squidship that was packed up and imported into Sigil, or references to the neogi, etc. The whole "alternate material planes" wierdness was never there as far as I remember, though it now occasionally pops up in 3e material. Now in the case of 3e material, it seems entirely author dependant. Some authors refer to different worlds as seperate material planes (mostly very early on in 3e), and others (increasingly now) refer to them as seperate planets/worlds within a single prime material. Now that stuff isn't hamstrung by having to only refer to "core" gods and personages, we're finally seeing references to multiple pantheons and a full use of the cosmology rather than tiptoeing around anything not directly linked to Greyhawk's gods, be that Kali in the Abyss, Set in Baator, the titan progenitors of the Olympian pantheon in Carceri, Loki in Pandemonium, etc. With all of that detail now fully open for use, having seperate worlds be entirely seperate prime material planes makes no sense at all (yes I'm looking at you Toril). In what material I've written, or published stuff that I've had an influence in the editing of, I refer to different worlds as different worlds/planets rather than different prime material planes entirely. That's the syntax I prefer, and the cosmological model I prefer.</blockquote>

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