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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 9729729" data-attributes="member: 725">Yes both split their product lines. FFG only on the 40k side and not on the WFRP side, which at the time made a LOT of sense.C7 is imho only 'splintering' 40k with W&G and IM, as HH might be the same setting, but GW also made that a distinct game from 40k (one might even argue multiple distinct games from 40k, with Aeronautica/Titanicus/Legions). WFRP is essentially the old tossed aside WFB (no longer supported) equivalent, Soulbound for the new AoS, and the 'new' Old Old World, which is supported. Now that I think about it, I wonder if we'll ever see a WFRP5e... Will GW not want it replaced with their 'new' Old Old World?What I'm trying to say is that C7 might have multiple lines running, but as they are all distinct lines, they do not need to be run by the same people. It all having different systems helps in that regard. And what's there isn't that little for it's age, the company size, and it's audience. Look at how little WotC releases on a yearly basis for D&D... For the longest time it was two adventure books and a 'splat' book per year, that's about the same rate as what Souldbound has been doing for the last five years... And WotC is far bigger and D&D has far more customers. Imperium Maledictum is in a similar boat with 6 products in two years. I think only Wrath & Glory is running behind with only 13 products in 6-7 years, but I wonder how much that is because it's the adopted system they had to take over from someone else. I also wonder if Imperium Maledictum was finally their own spin on 40k with possibly a little more love...And FFG still produced a TON of 40k product in the five years they were active with it. But their 40k lines were more like the old WW World of Darkness, each RPG focusing on a different aspect of the world, while having a common rule basis that was implemented differently.I would say that 'splintering' is not a good word for a (RPG) company where different product lines do not need to be worked on by the same people. And sure there might be some overlap with creators, that might actually be beneficial for the longterm quality and health for all the games when creators are 'allowed' to do different things. It would have been different if it was a company where all products were centered around one or two people.I think we have a couple of potential problems:#1 Not more product in a line because the people at the publisher not feeling like it (Wrath & Glory might be the worst contender for that).#2 Not more product in a line because of lack of subject matter, outside of more adventures. WFRP4e will eventually suffer from that, but we're not there yet.#3 Not more product in a line because it's not selling well enough.Now the advantage of the situation for C7 is that they are not just getting customers that play WFRP4e or any of their other GW IP licensed RPGs, but also of just the WFRP/AoS/40k/HH/OW fans from the GW camp. Someone like myself who has most of the WFRP1e/2e stuff in physical form, and most of the 40k stuff from FFG in physical form. I haven't run it once and I think I played WFRP1e once as a player 30+ years ago. While I would love to run it for my RPG group, I'm not seeing that happen, and to be honest there are other RPGs I would want to run with a higher priority. But I still have a LOT of the C7 GW products in pdf form and most of the WFRP 4e in FVTT module form (with the other systems generally just the starter set and the core book to take a look at the FVTT implementation). Why? I have been a WFB fan for 35+ years and a 40k fan for almost as long. I've stolen quite a bit from both for my D&D campaigns... I still love the settings.</blockquote>

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