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<blockquote data-quote="Grumpy RPG Reviews" data-source="post: 6709248" data-attributes="member: 6678305">I had to look up Condorcet, as I was not familiar with the name – and I am not certain what to make of your use of his name here.In any event, while I disagree with your statements I respect your position and the passion with which you argue your case. Bruce Cordell wrote the Thunder Plains and Elizabeth Bear in her column Writing the Other (where she asserts that white people writing for minorities is “simple”) and even in her story Shoggoths in Bloom, where she writes a main character who is a black man; in these cases, white people are writing stories which purport to “speak” for members of minority cultures. I advocated caution and that restraint equals good manners. They are far deeper into “the honkey’s burden” territory than I am. I have no inherent issues with these conclusions, merely where you eventually go with them. This is probably an accident of language and the use of political terminology. I am not concerned that a member of a minority group will somehow make my life less white. However, I fully acknowledge the complaints raised by members of minority groups that “entitled” white people are ripping them off. At the very least, as a matter of etiquette, to say nothing of being decent human beings, we should stop doing that.&nbsp; That is overstating the case by a considerable amount. The fact I posted the columns - original and revised - here for comments is a statement I wanted dialogue, if not expressly asking for an argument.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Grumpy RPG Reviews, post: 6709248, member: 6678305"] I had to look up Condorcet, as I was not familiar with the name – and I am not certain what to make of your use of his name here. In any event, while I disagree with your statements I respect your position and the passion with which you argue your case. Bruce Cordell wrote the [I]Thunder Plains[/I] and Elizabeth Bear in her column [I]Writing the Other[/I] (where she asserts that white people writing for minorities is “simple”) and even in her story [I]Shoggoths in Bloom[/I], where she writes a main character who is a black man; in these cases, white people are writing stories which purport to “speak” for members of minority cultures. I advocated caution and that restraint equals good manners. They are far deeper into “the honkey’s burden” territory than I am. I have no inherent issues with these conclusions, merely where you eventually go with them. This is probably an accident of language and the use of political terminology. I am not concerned that a member of a minority group will somehow make my life less white. However, I fully acknowledge the complaints raised by members of minority groups that “entitled” white people are ripping them off. At the very least, as a matter of etiquette, to say nothing of being decent human beings, we should stop doing that. That is overstating the case by a considerable amount. The fact I posted the columns - original and revised - here for comments is a statement I wanted dialogue, if not expressly asking for an argument. [/QUOTE]

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