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<blockquote data-quote="Nellisir" data-source="post: 6282026" data-attributes="member: 70"><p>This is a weirdly surreal discussion for me. </p><p></p><p>First of all, to restate the obvious, the notion of culture does not equal culture, anymore than the notion of a horse equals a horse. A notion is an idea or concept. He's talking about the idea of cultures, not a particular culture. It's meta.</p><p></p><p>Just because a "notion" or idea of something doesn't exist doesn't mean the thing itself doesn't exist. Calculus existed before the notion of calculus. I'm pretty sure gravity worked before Newton. Blind people don't see skin color; that doesn't mean they're literally transparent. Skin color still exists and has an effect (sunburn, for one), its just not perceptible and it ceases to be a means of division. There's a solid theory that a small percentage of people can perceive 4 primary colors, not 3 - they literally can see colors we have no conception (or notion) of (tetrachromacy). </p><p></p><p>Similarly, culture can still exist without the notion of culture; it just ceases to be a means of division. Forced cultural assimilation can't occur without a concept of culture. You wouldn't be forced to adopt a monoculture; you wouldn't be forced to do anything. All choices are equal. You can wear your kilt and your penis sheath and your sunhat/sombrero to temple, because who gives a hoot? If you've got the latest issue of National Geographic, you can starch up your lace and don your Breton bonnets with flair. Traditions aren't discarded, they're exchanged among people who desire them. </p><p></p><p>Is something lost? Sure. Concepts of exclusivity, superiority, and inferiority. The linkage between genetic inheritance and societal memes.</p><p></p><p>I go contra dancing. It's a traditional and popular form of couples dance. Like most couples dances, contra has a leading, or traditionally gentleman's, role, and a following, or traditionally ladies, role. But something that's become basically de rigueur in contra is what could be called death to the notion of gender roles. Does that mean no one leads and no one follows? No. It means dance whatever role you want to dance. Dance lead if you want. Dance the follow if you want. You don't need to pass a physical, just do whatever you enjoy. I generally dance lead, because that's what I've learned and dancing the follow role feels backwards (also the follow role usually spins more, which makes me nauseous), but I know men who and women who regularly dance either. Some couples switch back and forth during the dance. </p><p></p><p>Is the notion of culture blindness as realistic or possible? Probably not. Is it desirable? I have no idea. It's still a valid thought exercise.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nellisir, post: 6282026, member: 70"] This is a weirdly surreal discussion for me. First of all, to restate the obvious, the notion of culture does not equal culture, anymore than the notion of a horse equals a horse. A notion is an idea or concept. He's talking about the idea of cultures, not a particular culture. It's meta. Just because a "notion" or idea of something doesn't exist doesn't mean the thing itself doesn't exist. Calculus existed before the notion of calculus. I'm pretty sure gravity worked before Newton. Blind people don't see skin color; that doesn't mean they're literally transparent. Skin color still exists and has an effect (sunburn, for one), its just not perceptible and it ceases to be a means of division. There's a solid theory that a small percentage of people can perceive 4 primary colors, not 3 - they literally can see colors we have no conception (or notion) of (tetrachromacy). Similarly, culture can still exist without the notion of culture; it just ceases to be a means of division. Forced cultural assimilation can't occur without a concept of culture. You wouldn't be forced to adopt a monoculture; you wouldn't be forced to do anything. All choices are equal. You can wear your kilt and your penis sheath and your sunhat/sombrero to temple, because who gives a hoot? If you've got the latest issue of National Geographic, you can starch up your lace and don your Breton bonnets with flair. Traditions aren't discarded, they're exchanged among people who desire them. Is something lost? Sure. Concepts of exclusivity, superiority, and inferiority. The linkage between genetic inheritance and societal memes. I go contra dancing. It's a traditional and popular form of couples dance. Like most couples dances, contra has a leading, or traditionally gentleman's, role, and a following, or traditionally ladies, role. But something that's become basically de rigueur in contra is what could be called death to the notion of gender roles. Does that mean no one leads and no one follows? No. It means dance whatever role you want to dance. Dance lead if you want. Dance the follow if you want. You don't need to pass a physical, just do whatever you enjoy. I generally dance lead, because that's what I've learned and dancing the follow role feels backwards (also the follow role usually spins more, which makes me nauseous), but I know men who and women who regularly dance either. Some couples switch back and forth during the dance. Is the notion of culture blindness as realistic or possible? Probably not. Is it desirable? I have no idea. It's still a valid thought exercise. [/QUOTE]
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