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<blockquote data-quote="Elder-Basilisk" data-source="post: 3177048" data-attributes="member: 3146"><p>I don't think I'd categorize missing out on:</p><p>Mage armor, polymorph, stoneskin, and project image</p><p></p><p>as missing out on "all"--or even most--of the defensive spells.</p><p></p><p>There's still: Shield, alter self, blur, displacement, veil of shadows, blink, invisibility, greater invisibility, shapechange, polymorph any object, etc on the list. And that's not including non-core spells like greater mage armor, greater blink, ghostform, fiendform, dragon scales, draconic might, shieldbearer, etc.</p><p></p><p>Similarly, magic missile and disintegrate is hardly a dent in the list of blasting spells. The core rules leave scorching ray, flaming sphere, fireball, lightning bolt, cone of cold, ice storm, etc. If non-core rules are allowed, you'll hardly miss either at all. The ray of fire, lesser and normal orbs, etc will almost entirely take their place.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elder-Basilisk, post: 3177048, member: 3146"] I don't think I'd categorize missing out on: Mage armor, polymorph, stoneskin, and project image as missing out on "all"--or even most--of the defensive spells. There's still: Shield, alter self, blur, displacement, veil of shadows, blink, invisibility, greater invisibility, shapechange, polymorph any object, etc on the list. And that's not including non-core spells like greater mage armor, greater blink, ghostform, fiendform, dragon scales, draconic might, shieldbearer, etc. Similarly, magic missile and disintegrate is hardly a dent in the list of blasting spells. The core rules leave scorching ray, flaming sphere, fireball, lightning bolt, cone of cold, ice storm, etc. If non-core rules are allowed, you'll hardly miss either at all. The ray of fire, lesser and normal orbs, etc will almost entirely take their place. [/QUOTE]
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