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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kerrick" data-source="post: 5089877" data-attributes="member: 4722">Short answer? No. IMO, it's metagaming - hit points are an abstraction. If, for example, the mage is down to half his hit points, and the fighter is down to half hit points, they'd look the same - beat up, bruised, and bloody. There's no real indicator to say which one has more hit points, unless you'd actually seen them taking damage. Plus, a spell that cures up 80% (or even 60%!) of the target's hp is going to outclass heal.Yeah... you're forgetting the level caps (which is what I forgot to mention in my first post):CLW: caps at L5L1: 1d8.L3: 2d8L5: 3d8CMW: Caps at L10L3: 2d8 + 1d8L4-5: 2d8 + 2d8L6-7: 2d8 + 3d8L8-9: 2d8 + 4d8L10: 2d8 + 5d8CSW: Technically L3 divine spells cap at L10, but I'd extend it to 15L5: 3d8 + 2d8L6-7: 3d8 + 3d8L8-9: 3d8 + 4d8L10-11: 3d8 + 5d8L15: 3d8 + 7d8 (45 hp; not bad)CCW: Caps at L20 (I'm going to skip a few levels in interest of brevity)L7: 4d8 + 3d8L12: 4d8 + 6d8L18: 4d8 + 9d8L20: 4d8 + 10d8 (63 avg. Compare to heal, which does 150.)Does this make more sense now? Each spell, at its basic level, is equal to the spell below it at one level higher. For example, your basic CMW (CL 3)cures the same amount as CLW at CL 5; the basic CSW (CL 5) cures the same amount as as a CL 6 CMW; etc. This means that they're fairly comparable at first - a L5 caster can prepare some CLWs or CMWs and have pretty much the same effect - without outclassing the higher level spells, and all cure/inflict spells remain viable for far longer than the RAW versions.</blockquote>

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