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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8014045" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>It's kind of wildly inconsistently valued, and in-combat healing is valued excessively at lower levels (where out of combat is valued lower there, but higher later). It's a bit all over the place.</p><p></p><p>The OP's suggestion re: making touch heals allow you to spend HD is extremely sensible, frankly. Because HD are a fixed resource, it's not particularly unbalanced. Limiting the number of HD by the level of the spell also prevents it become too powerful.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They do eventually come up, but that's not really the point. The issue he was pointing out is that, though they come up, it's not really interesting or meaningfully balance-improving to follow the RAW obsessively here. Generally speaking, it's unlikely to be a problem to allow someone to use a Bonus Action spell as an Action. Your examples show that. It's certainly not damaging to the game, nor unbalanced, to allow a Bard to use HW as an Action, and and also Inspiration as a Bonus Action. If you block that, what's the change? The Bard uses HW still, but as a Bonus Action, and makes an attack or casts a different spell as their action, and uses Inspiration next time. Did that improve your game? Did that improve the experience of everyone at the table? I very much doubt it did either.</p><p></p><p>That doesn't mean it's in any way inappropriate or wrong to run it that way. It's totally fine. But equally, the point being made to you is that it's not a real problem to run it the other way, because 5E just isn't that tightly balanced.</p><p></p><p>There may be exceptions, particularly as you get into 3PP stuff, where allowing this does create a balance issue, particularly if the Bonus Action doesn't draw on a limited resource (but in your examples, they did), but it's certainly likely to be a corner-case of what is already a corner-case. I know from many spell-threads that you do love your corner-cases though! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8014045, member: 18"] It's kind of wildly inconsistently valued, and in-combat healing is valued excessively at lower levels (where out of combat is valued lower there, but higher later). It's a bit all over the place. The OP's suggestion re: making touch heals allow you to spend HD is extremely sensible, frankly. Because HD are a fixed resource, it's not particularly unbalanced. Limiting the number of HD by the level of the spell also prevents it become too powerful. They do eventually come up, but that's not really the point. The issue he was pointing out is that, though they come up, it's not really interesting or meaningfully balance-improving to follow the RAW obsessively here. Generally speaking, it's unlikely to be a problem to allow someone to use a Bonus Action spell as an Action. Your examples show that. It's certainly not damaging to the game, nor unbalanced, to allow a Bard to use HW as an Action, and and also Inspiration as a Bonus Action. If you block that, what's the change? The Bard uses HW still, but as a Bonus Action, and makes an attack or casts a different spell as their action, and uses Inspiration next time. Did that improve your game? Did that improve the experience of everyone at the table? I very much doubt it did either. That doesn't mean it's in any way inappropriate or wrong to run it that way. It's totally fine. But equally, the point being made to you is that it's not a real problem to run it the other way, because 5E just isn't that tightly balanced. There may be exceptions, particularly as you get into 3PP stuff, where allowing this does create a balance issue, particularly if the Bonus Action doesn't draw on a limited resource (but in your examples, they did), but it's certainly likely to be a corner-case of what is already a corner-case. I know from many spell-threads that you do love your corner-cases though! :) [/QUOTE]
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