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<blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6642892" data-attributes="member: 5834">Crits should not affect either feat at all. They are static damage. They are not doubled on a crit.Optimized use of the feats requires selection bias. That is when they are used.All D&amp;D fights last a few rounds. What are you looking for? A 100 different fights? You can't use a 100 rounds. D&amp;D fights don't last that long.bless is a 1st level spell. You can cast it nearly every major battle at higher level. Now you're talking about encounter design specifically stop a tactic. I already do that. If you're designing encounters to stop a single spell or feat, what does that say about the spell?A 3rd level spell to get rid of a 1st level spell? Who's going to win that race?How does that help for Sharpshooter?Sure. Everyone is supposed to be a Medieval Super Hero, not just the guys using those feats.So when he needs a 15 to hit? That is pretty narrow, especially at higher level.I'm finding that out. I'm starting to seriously wonder how many groups focus on making optimal choices. A group that didn't make optimal choices might not even take the feat. I had a player that thought 3E metamagic feats were stupid at one point until he saw them used by an optimizer.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celtavian, post: 6642892, member: 5834"] Crits should not affect either feat at all. They are static damage. They are not doubled on a crit. Optimized use of the feats requires selection bias. That is when they are used. All D&D fights last a few rounds. What are you looking for? A 100 different fights? You can't use a 100 rounds. D&D fights don't last that long. [I]bless[/I] is a 1st level spell. You can cast it nearly every major battle at higher level. Now you're talking about encounter design specifically stop a tactic. I already do that. If you're designing encounters to stop a single spell or feat, what does that say about the spell? A 3rd level spell to get rid of a 1st level spell? Who's going to win that race? How does that help for Sharpshooter? Sure. Everyone is supposed to be a Medieval Super Hero, not just the guys using those feats. So when he needs a 15 to hit? That is pretty narrow, especially at higher level. I'm finding that out. I'm starting to seriously wonder how many groups focus on making optimal choices. A group that didn't make optimal choices might not even take the feat. I had a player that thought 3E metamagic feats were stupid at one point until he saw them used by an optimizer. [/QUOTE]

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