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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6643609" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Simple example.</p><p></p><p>Wizard casts Hold Person.</p><p></p><p>AC 18 foe fails save.</p><p></p><p>11th level great weapon Fighter would normally hit a held AC 18 foe for 3 criticals for about 65 points of damage. DPR is about 54 points of damage. There is a slim chance that the Fighter misses, but with advantage, it's fairly uncommon at +9 to miss, even without a magic weapon (most PCs have at least a +1 weapon by level 11, but we'll ignore that).</p><p></p><p>With GWM, the same 11th level great weapon Fighter would normally hit a held AC 18 foe for at least 3 criticals for about 95 points of damage and could possible critical him 4 times. There is a greater chance that the Fighter misses each time, but overall his DPR goes up to 73.</p><p></p><p>A 35% increase in damage without magic items, without Bless, without other buffs. Just GWM. Once other synergies come into play, it increases a lot faster.</p><p></p><p>Just adding Bless to the equation means:</p><p></p><p>60 DPR vs. 92 DPR</p><p></p><p>The normal case increased by 6 DPR, the GWM case increased by 19 DPR (53% more damage now).</p><p></p><p></p><p>Against a lower AC foe, the DPR delta is considerably greater. Same with a magic weapon.</p><p></p><p>The point is that it is not that difficult to give a melee PC buffs, advantage, and other benefits.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Paladins get one fewer attack per round, but they can load up on a lot of damage with Smite and such. Granted, that is using non-renewable resources, but in a tough fight against a powerful high AC foe, the Paladin or Fighter is doing 50% more damage than the Rogue (who is also doing a critical with sneak attack damage against a held foe for about 52 DPR). Bless makes the Rogues DPR go from 52 to 53.</p><p></p><p>So we have:</p><p></p><p>Fighter without GWM: DPR 54</p><p>Blessed Fighter without GWM: DPR 60</p><p>Fighter with GWM: DPR 73</p><p>Blessed Fighter with GWM: DPR 90</p><p>Rogue: DPR 52</p><p>Blessed Rogue: DPR 53</p><p></p><p>Granted, foes are not going to be held a lot for the auto-criticals, but there are quite a few ways to get advantage (prone, faerie fire, blinded, etc.).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6643609, member: 2011"] Simple example. Wizard casts Hold Person. AC 18 foe fails save. 11th level great weapon Fighter would normally hit a held AC 18 foe for 3 criticals for about 65 points of damage. DPR is about 54 points of damage. There is a slim chance that the Fighter misses, but with advantage, it's fairly uncommon at +9 to miss, even without a magic weapon (most PCs have at least a +1 weapon by level 11, but we'll ignore that). With GWM, the same 11th level great weapon Fighter would normally hit a held AC 18 foe for at least 3 criticals for about 95 points of damage and could possible critical him 4 times. There is a greater chance that the Fighter misses each time, but overall his DPR goes up to 73. A 35% increase in damage without magic items, without Bless, without other buffs. Just GWM. Once other synergies come into play, it increases a lot faster. Just adding Bless to the equation means: 60 DPR vs. 92 DPR The normal case increased by 6 DPR, the GWM case increased by 19 DPR (53% more damage now). Against a lower AC foe, the DPR delta is considerably greater. Same with a magic weapon. The point is that it is not that difficult to give a melee PC buffs, advantage, and other benefits. Paladins get one fewer attack per round, but they can load up on a lot of damage with Smite and such. Granted, that is using non-renewable resources, but in a tough fight against a powerful high AC foe, the Paladin or Fighter is doing 50% more damage than the Rogue (who is also doing a critical with sneak attack damage against a held foe for about 52 DPR). Bless makes the Rogues DPR go from 52 to 53. So we have: Fighter without GWM: DPR 54 Blessed Fighter without GWM: DPR 60 Fighter with GWM: DPR 73 Blessed Fighter with GWM: DPR 90 Rogue: DPR 52 Blessed Rogue: DPR 53 Granted, foes are not going to be held a lot for the auto-criticals, but there are quite a few ways to get advantage (prone, faerie fire, blinded, etc.). [/QUOTE]
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