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<blockquote data-quote="DaveDash" data-source="post: 6645452" data-attributes="member: 6786202"><p>I'd love to hear your experiences in dealing with Crossbow Expert + Sharpshooter characters in your party.</p><p></p><p>Note - when I was playing an EK at lower levels, we'd quite often scout and then get bless up before the battle. I'm sure you've heard of this technique called scouting. Now that I play a Cleric Bless is either before combat or round 1, who cares if I miss out on a round? The amount of value it adds both in DPR and saving throws is massive, far greater than anything else I could do that round.</p><p></p><p>When I played a lower level EK from level 8 my expected DPR upon an action surge was around 80-100, depending on the AC of the opponents we were fighting. Any encounter under Deadly * 2 was a cake walk. Vampires? pfft. Dragons? pfft. Anything under CR 14 in the MM was basically free XP.</p><p></p><p>Not only that, I had the second best HD in the game, one of the best AC's, the best attack bonus, the ability to switch between a tank and a ranged fighter at will, and the ability to pick and choose between damage and accuracy at will. About the only "weakness" in combat really was Wisdom saving throws. I totally eclipsed everyone else in the party, and over the course of the day my damage was higher than all other party members combined - consistently. I didn't even need Bless to do it, as Bless was only really required in the harder fights against higher AC creatures.</p><p></p><p>Assuming you're running Princes of the Apocolypes - with the exception of the Elemental Princes at the end - I can pretty much kill everything in the back of the book in one round, and reduce the HPs of the Prophets themselves to a number in which someone else in the party can kill them that round. I have totally trivialized the entire combat pillar in the module, unless you as the DM start investing time in rebalancing all the encounters. Then what about the other party members who are now going to fall even further behind? Is this your idea of fun, to breeze through the combat pillar in 8 months - 1 year of play time? It very well may be, but I doubt it's most peoples cup of tea.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DaveDash, post: 6645452, member: 6786202"] I'd love to hear your experiences in dealing with Crossbow Expert + Sharpshooter characters in your party. Note - when I was playing an EK at lower levels, we'd quite often scout and then get bless up before the battle. I'm sure you've heard of this technique called scouting. Now that I play a Cleric Bless is either before combat or round 1, who cares if I miss out on a round? The amount of value it adds both in DPR and saving throws is massive, far greater than anything else I could do that round. When I played a lower level EK from level 8 my expected DPR upon an action surge was around 80-100, depending on the AC of the opponents we were fighting. Any encounter under Deadly * 2 was a cake walk. Vampires? pfft. Dragons? pfft. Anything under CR 14 in the MM was basically free XP. Not only that, I had the second best HD in the game, one of the best AC's, the best attack bonus, the ability to switch between a tank and a ranged fighter at will, and the ability to pick and choose between damage and accuracy at will. About the only "weakness" in combat really was Wisdom saving throws. I totally eclipsed everyone else in the party, and over the course of the day my damage was higher than all other party members combined - consistently. I didn't even need Bless to do it, as Bless was only really required in the harder fights against higher AC creatures. Assuming you're running Princes of the Apocolypes - with the exception of the Elemental Princes at the end - I can pretty much kill everything in the back of the book in one round, and reduce the HPs of the Prophets themselves to a number in which someone else in the party can kill them that round. I have totally trivialized the entire combat pillar in the module, unless you as the DM start investing time in rebalancing all the encounters. Then what about the other party members who are now going to fall even further behind? Is this your idea of fun, to breeze through the combat pillar in 8 months - 1 year of play time? It very well may be, but I doubt it's most peoples cup of tea. [/QUOTE]
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