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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celtavian" data-source="post: 6649118" data-attributes="member: 5834">How did he roll above average? I listed an example of his rolls. His base rolls were very average. It doesn't take above average rolls to hit. The damage was 8 points above the average. The hit rolls were average. Go look at that post again. You'll see those rolls were average. It doesn't require above average hit rolls to do that damage.Yeah. Action Surging fighters do a ton of damage without GWM and Sharpshooter, nearly twice as much with them. That's been the point behind my posts. You're ok with them being able to nearly double their damage during an Action Surge nova with GWM or Sharpshooter. I don't think I'm ok with it. It cheapens the contributions of other classes and encourages all the other martial types towards those feats. I don't know that I like that. You haven't addressed either of those issues.All you've been stating is "It's not overpowered. You're wrong about that." That has never been my argument. I'm still torn on whether to remove them because of what casters can do at higher level. When I keep them in, the wizard simulacrum's the GWM or CE/Sharpshooter, I've got double hell on my hands as a DM. The fact the wizard can summon a bunch of creatures and simulacrum would make the fighter's contributions appear less. If you're playing some nutty bard one-man-army concept, you can have the bard take conjure animals, simulacrum, and use planar binding to get some nutty stuff going. Then you have double GWM/Sharpshooter guy, a bunch of animals, and a few bound creatures. Then the bard or wizard with simulacrum is also taking advantage of the feats. Though he'll do less damage with no magic items. I have to think about those high level possibilities before I take the feats out. I don't know if I'm even going to take that route yet. It's one of those high level conundrums. I want to figure out how I should take care of it.</blockquote>

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