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<blockquote data-quote="CapnZapp" data-source="post: 7177575" data-attributes="member: 12731"><p>I'm inclined to make this ruling:</p><p></p><p>The dagger detects as evil on a Detect Evil spell. So if you still use it even when you know it's somehow evil, you must roll the d20 the first time you use it, and then I'll reveal the curse and its mechanics.</p><p></p><p>If that single roll is unlucky, you can use Remove Curse or otherwise atone for your sins, as long as you dump the dagger.</p><p></p><p>If you aren't unlucky, but (willingly and voluntarily) keep using the dagger even after learning its full details, my ruling is that any alignment changes are no longer considered a curse, but your voluntary personal development, and any further alignment shifts are just as permanent as if a lawful good person starts running around killing and raping innocents (which is already something the rules empower the DM to impose permanent alignment changes for). </p><p></p><p>---</p><p></p><p>So it's not that I need Mearls to tell me I can do this. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>But I would appreciate it if you can point me to some instance where 5E has gone beyond the bare minimum regarding a curse in an official supplement somewhere, that I can point any disgruntled players to as precedent. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Thanks in advance</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="CapnZapp, post: 7177575, member: 12731"] I'm inclined to make this ruling: The dagger detects as evil on a Detect Evil spell. So if you still use it even when you know it's somehow evil, you must roll the d20 the first time you use it, and then I'll reveal the curse and its mechanics. If that single roll is unlucky, you can use Remove Curse or otherwise atone for your sins, as long as you dump the dagger. If you aren't unlucky, but (willingly and voluntarily) keep using the dagger even after learning its full details, my ruling is that any alignment changes are no longer considered a curse, but your voluntary personal development, and any further alignment shifts are just as permanent as if a lawful good person starts running around killing and raping innocents (which is already something the rules empower the DM to impose permanent alignment changes for). --- So it's not that I need Mearls to tell me I can do this. ;) But I would appreciate it if you can point me to some instance where 5E has gone beyond the bare minimum regarding a curse in an official supplement somewhere, that I can point any disgruntled players to as precedent. :) Thanks in advance [/QUOTE]
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