Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Curse of Strahd spoiler-filled general discussion
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="Coreyartus" data-source="post: 6854777" data-attributes="member: 5399"><p>I really like the analogy of this version's Strahd hearkening to Jessica Jones's Killgrave, mentioned very early on in the thread. </p><p></p><p>IMO, the difference between this 5.0Strahd and the Strahds of the past is that this one seems to be a complete and utter narcissist. Of course he should conquer Barovia--rulers should desire to expand their territory. Of course he would treat his subjects with disdain--it's their lot to be there for him anyway because he's at the top of the social hierarchy. It's all very reasonable. Of course he would seek out the Dark Powers--power is, after all, what it's all about and if they're going to help him live forever and conquer more and control his political opponents then that's the right and proper thing to do... He deserves it, of course...</p><p></p><p>Power breeds contempt. And sycophants. Strahd lived in a world where everyone and everything has revolved around him. </p><p></p><p>Except his parents, apparently. And the one creature he desired but couldn't have: Tatyana. I think Strahd <em>thinks</em> he loved her, but he doesn't know what love is any more than Killgrave. That's why her death was something he now sees as inevitable--of course he'd rationalize it away as "not his fault"! <em>Nothing</em> is his fault according to him, and nothing he's done is wrong--he's had logical reasons for everything.</p><p></p><p>And he's bored. OMG, 300 years after the choices he made he wants out, but he's running out of playthings let alone finding someone that's worthy of Barovia. He's gone through so many and none. of. them. live up to his standards. He gives them so SO many chances. Over and over again he tests their mettle, helping them grow, putting them out of their misery when they don't measure up...</p><p></p><p>He doesn't see himself as a tragic figure--that would imply that he's actually lost something. And he doesn't need to be benevolent except when it serves his interests. He wavers back and forth between Tatyana as love and Tatyana as possession... Her loss is not tragic. To him it's inconvenience. She'll come around. Her soul at any rate. She just has to learn. </p><p></p><p>Strahd couldn't understand how Tatyana couldn't love him, just as Killgrave can't understand Jessica.</p><p></p><p>And his toying congeniality with the party is simply a means to an end. Perhaps one of them will live up his expectations this time? Probably not--the chances aren't good. But still... One will come eventually. He can't just dismissively cut them all down before they're ripe, can he?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Coreyartus, post: 6854777, member: 5399"] I really like the analogy of this version's Strahd hearkening to Jessica Jones's Killgrave, mentioned very early on in the thread. IMO, the difference between this 5.0Strahd and the Strahds of the past is that this one seems to be a complete and utter narcissist. Of course he should conquer Barovia--rulers should desire to expand their territory. Of course he would treat his subjects with disdain--it's their lot to be there for him anyway because he's at the top of the social hierarchy. It's all very reasonable. Of course he would seek out the Dark Powers--power is, after all, what it's all about and if they're going to help him live forever and conquer more and control his political opponents then that's the right and proper thing to do... He deserves it, of course... Power breeds contempt. And sycophants. Strahd lived in a world where everyone and everything has revolved around him. Except his parents, apparently. And the one creature he desired but couldn't have: Tatyana. I think Strahd [I]thinks[/I] he loved her, but he doesn't know what love is any more than Killgrave. That's why her death was something he now sees as inevitable--of course he'd rationalize it away as "not his fault"! [I]Nothing[/I] is his fault according to him, and nothing he's done is wrong--he's had logical reasons for everything. And he's bored. OMG, 300 years after the choices he made he wants out, but he's running out of playthings let alone finding someone that's worthy of Barovia. He's gone through so many and none. of. them. live up to his standards. He gives them so SO many chances. Over and over again he tests their mettle, helping them grow, putting them out of their misery when they don't measure up... He doesn't see himself as a tragic figure--that would imply that he's actually lost something. And he doesn't need to be benevolent except when it serves his interests. He wavers back and forth between Tatyana as love and Tatyana as possession... Her loss is not tragic. To him it's inconvenience. She'll come around. Her soul at any rate. She just has to learn. Strahd couldn't understand how Tatyana couldn't love him, just as Killgrave can't understand Jessica. And his toying congeniality with the party is simply a means to an end. Perhaps one of them will live up his expectations this time? Probably not--the chances aren't good. But still... One will come eventually. He can't just dismissively cut them all down before they're ripe, can he? [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Curse of Strahd spoiler-filled general discussion
Top