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<blockquote data-quote="knasser" data-source="post: 6933940" data-attributes="member: 65151"><p>Thank you. I was worried about your blessing! <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" /> And this from the person who replied to my post, stating how it made them throw up in their mouth, was beyond trope, goes completely against the flow of the story and described it as "a particularly nasty mix" with a pretty strong overtone of "you're wrong". And in each of your posts rounds it off with a passive-aggressive "but whatever, your game" sentiment. Full of yourself, much?</p><p></p><p>My post didn't quote you, wasn't directed at anyone in particular and explicitly stated it was the original story of Strahd and I was posting to provide some insight to modern day audiences who probably don't have a tradition of feudal lordship foremost in their way of thinking. Your post is filled with assertions of how Strahd is - he is like this, that's just Strahd faking, the module doesn't support X (my post explicitly is in the context of the original story which many people prefer), et al.</p><p></p><p>I've already answered everything in my previous post. To go around the circle again of things like you telling me it's a stereotype just so I can again say that (a) it's a Dracula pastiche what do you expect? and (b) it isn't because what I'm doing is deepening the original story by highlighting the betrayal aspects; that wont achieve anything. Probably just more expressions of how sickened you are by a different take on the story. There are lots of ways you can tell a story. None are right or wrong, only told well or told badly. There was a debate going on between people who preferred the original and people who preferred a revised version of the story. Some were critical of the former because they thought it was silly for someone to snap in a moment and make a pact with death because of rejection by a woman . I took that on board and I feel I made a pretty good stab at addressing that perceived weakness by showing the context is much more than that, it's a betrayal by all those around him. Betrayal IS something that can make someone snap quickly. That's not "a trope", that's human nature.</p><p></p><p>My post was simply an attempt to tell one of the stories better. It isn't a challenge to the stories you want to tell. If it were, my original post would have been addressed in reply to one of yours. There are no right stories. But Ravenloft is a much loved setting, the original module and the boxed set it spawned are much loved and unsurprisingly there are many about, including in this thread, who like the original story and were discussing it. You have made very clear to people that you find the original story "nasty" and have been pretty vicious in attacking my attempt to tell it in a better way, so it's a bit of an affectation to keep pulling the "but that doesn't mean I think you're wrong" stuff at the end of each deluge of assertions about what the story really is. There isn't a real story. Just good or bad ways to tell it. Mine is fine.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="knasser, post: 6933940, member: 65151"] Thank you. I was worried about your blessing! :erm: And this from the person who replied to my post, stating how it made them throw up in their mouth, was beyond trope, goes completely against the flow of the story and described it as "a particularly nasty mix" with a pretty strong overtone of "you're wrong". And in each of your posts rounds it off with a passive-aggressive "but whatever, your game" sentiment. Full of yourself, much? My post didn't quote you, wasn't directed at anyone in particular and explicitly stated it was the original story of Strahd and I was posting to provide some insight to modern day audiences who probably don't have a tradition of feudal lordship foremost in their way of thinking. Your post is filled with assertions of how Strahd is - he is like this, that's just Strahd faking, the module doesn't support X (my post explicitly is in the context of the original story which many people prefer), et al. I've already answered everything in my previous post. To go around the circle again of things like you telling me it's a stereotype just so I can again say that (a) it's a Dracula pastiche what do you expect? and (b) it isn't because what I'm doing is deepening the original story by highlighting the betrayal aspects; that wont achieve anything. Probably just more expressions of how sickened you are by a different take on the story. There are lots of ways you can tell a story. None are right or wrong, only told well or told badly. There was a debate going on between people who preferred the original and people who preferred a revised version of the story. Some were critical of the former because they thought it was silly for someone to snap in a moment and make a pact with death because of rejection by a woman . I took that on board and I feel I made a pretty good stab at addressing that perceived weakness by showing the context is much more than that, it's a betrayal by all those around him. Betrayal IS something that can make someone snap quickly. That's not "a trope", that's human nature. My post was simply an attempt to tell one of the stories better. It isn't a challenge to the stories you want to tell. If it were, my original post would have been addressed in reply to one of yours. There are no right stories. But Ravenloft is a much loved setting, the original module and the boxed set it spawned are much loved and unsurprisingly there are many about, including in this thread, who like the original story and were discussing it. You have made very clear to people that you find the original story "nasty" and have been pretty vicious in attacking my attempt to tell it in a better way, so it's a bit of an affectation to keep pulling the "but that doesn't mean I think you're wrong" stuff at the end of each deluge of assertions about what the story really is. There isn't a real story. Just good or bad ways to tell it. Mine is fine. [/QUOTE]
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