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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kahuna Burger" data-source="post: 1427672" data-attributes="member: 8439">well, there are three basic options. One is to allow the dwarf to use str as the intimidate stat rather than cha. I dislike this one, since background or not, cha IS his dump stat, and he should pay for it once in a while.The second is circumstance modifiers. If his axe is out and he has done something obviously violent recently, give him a +2 or +3 on his intimidate check. Of course, the sorcerer should be able to take advantage of this to if he is talking to someone with a shocking grasp crackling.Third is to suck it up. His gruffness and lack of leadership makes people think of him as just dumb muscle regardless of his actual int or wis, and it makes people take his threats less seriously. Or what he thinks of as gruff comes off half the time as mumbling. CHA isn't just how much people like you, its force of personality, and he just doesn't have it. Regardless of the demenour he is trying to project, he has to work harder to make people really feel it, whereas, if the sorc wants someone to feel his willingness to end their life, they feel it. I don't like people who play low cha as loud and boorish or having everyone hate them, because inspiring that kind of negitive emotion takes as much force of personality as being the life of the party. The majority of the time, a low cha character should be dismissed or ignored in my opinion.Kahuna Burger</blockquote>