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Message: <blockquote data-quote="uzagi_akimbo" data-source="post: 1428440" data-attributes="member: 15945">Ok, another 2 cents worth of ... advice.Off the board - IMHO, anyone can threaten/intimidate in two ways - by demonstrating just how your head is going to be smashed into the brick wall, repeatedly (the brawny way ) or alternatively by insinuating just what horrors will befall you, your family, friends, associates etc. etc. etc. if you mess with the wrong guy (the suave, more brainy approach - aka, the 'family' way)), aka the character using the skill. You need a lot of persuasiveness and confidence for the second. Personally I would allow supplementing CHA with STR for the purpose of 'demoralizing' an opponent only - with the premise that a) the player in question tells/describes just which display of strength, force and brawny might he is going to display  and b) the opponent is susceptible to the threat of that display ( and say, does not have DR 15/silver // is ethereal etc. when facing a guy armed with a 'wood and teeth' baseball bat ), and not distracted.Note - this use of the skill is aimed at a single target or a very small group of opponents. It also takes a standard action (PHB p.75). The character must be visible and immediately threatening (or incur a hefty penalty, if he wants to intimidate across a bridge etc.) If the player is willing to pass up a round of combat to "shake" his opponent for a single round (something that has just become even more difficult, given that now some feats like "blooded" and "fearless" from the FR-PG provide immunity to it ), he is welcome to it...And speaking from a GM's perspective - it works the other way round, too.... now let's face that frost giant who has just ripped your trusty mount into pieces to demonstrate his strength.....I would not allow a character to use STR-supplemented Initimidation to "change attitude" by threats - therefore force "cooperation" and a "friendly" attitude, though. That is overwhelmingly a matter of insinuating threats - and therefore falls under the aegis of CHA. It is also the more useful way of using the skill. Last - one should never overlook the modifiers for relative size affecting the skill, nor the synergy bonuses to be reapt from having a good "bluff" skill (always a handy thing).</blockquote>

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