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<blockquote data-quote="Particle_Man" data-source="post: 1437746" data-attributes="member: 892"><p>For intimidate, it says that a success will get the victim to "chat, advise, offer limited help, advocate on one's behalf". So in the assassin/guard example, I could see an intimidate success making the guard "spilling the beans" on where the bedchamber is, give up his keys, etc. As for accompanying the assassin, that comes down to whether you consider that "limited help". But the guard would not cross the line to helpful, which includes "taking risks to aid you" (so would not fight other guards, or likely try to sneak past them, etc. (too risky - might as well fight the assassin then)).</p><p></p><p>As for what counts as "limited help" (how limited?), without "taking risks" (what level of risk? Any level of risk? More risk than fighting the assassin, objectively considered?), I guess that would be the DM's call.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Particle_Man, post: 1437746, member: 892"] For intimidate, it says that a success will get the victim to "chat, advise, offer limited help, advocate on one's behalf". So in the assassin/guard example, I could see an intimidate success making the guard "spilling the beans" on where the bedchamber is, give up his keys, etc. As for accompanying the assassin, that comes down to whether you consider that "limited help". But the guard would not cross the line to helpful, which includes "taking risks to aid you" (so would not fight other guards, or likely try to sneak past them, etc. (too risky - might as well fight the assassin then)). As for what counts as "limited help" (how limited?), without "taking risks" (what level of risk? Any level of risk? More risk than fighting the assassin, objectively considered?), I guess that would be the DM's call. [/QUOTE]
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