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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 4356712" data-attributes="member: 1656">Yup - Target, p57.&nbsp; &quot;If a power directly affects one or more creatures or objects, it has a 'Target' or 'Targets' entry.&quot;Consider Fireball.&nbsp; Area: burst 3 within 20 squares.&nbsp; Target: Each creature in burst.Now consider Wall of Fire.&nbsp; Area: wall 8 within 10 squares.&nbsp; Target... oops, no target entry.The area determines which targets the attack effects, but Wall of Fire doesn't affect targets at all.And indeed, if I cast Wall of Fire so that the paladin's square is affected by the wall, nothing happens to him on my turn.&nbsp; And if someone shifts him two squares away before his turn, nothing happens to him on his turn either.&nbsp; He was never a target of the power, because the power doesn't have targets.It's true that an area attack's area of effect will determine which targets it affects, but that's only meaningful if the power has targets.After all, consider p56: &quot;An area power creates an area of effect that can originate in a distant square and hits multiple targets or creates an obstacle.&quot;Fireball hits multiple targets.&nbsp; Wall of Fire creates an obstacle.&nbsp; Fireball has targets, Wall of Fire doesn't.-Hyp.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 4356712, member: 1656"] Yup - Target, p57. "If a power directly affects one or more creatures or objects, it has a 'Target' or 'Targets' entry." Consider Fireball. Area: burst 3 within 20 squares. Target: Each creature in burst. Now consider Wall of Fire. Area: wall 8 within 10 squares. Target... oops, no target entry. The area determines which targets the attack effects, but Wall of Fire doesn't affect targets at all. And indeed, if I cast Wall of Fire so that the paladin's square is affected by the wall, nothing happens to him on my turn. And if someone shifts him two squares away before his turn, nothing happens to him on his turn either. He was never a target of the power, because the power doesn't have targets. It's true that an area attack's area of effect will determine which targets it affects, but that's only meaningful if the power has targets. After all, consider p56: "An area power creates an area of effect that can originate in a distant square and hits multiple targets or creates an obstacle." Fireball hits multiple targets. Wall of Fire creates an obstacle. Fireball has targets, Wall of Fire doesn't. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]

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