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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 4357470" data-attributes="member: 2011">The problem with this definition is that it leads to logical inconsistencies.Many elements of the game state something like "When an attack occurs, ...". Limiting it to Attack Checks is fine if that was the designer intention (and they clarify it in the FAQ or an errata), but this does not appear to be the case. Nowhere in the rules is this called out.The word "attack" is used 2456 times in the PHB. It is likely that the designers mean "attack" (i.e. trying to affect a foe) in many of those instances (even in the case of an Attack Power, it is a power that affects one or more foes).One really should assume that every Attack Power is an attack and every Utility Power is not an attack. Regardless of whether there is an Attack Check within any given Attack Power.Otherwise, you get people stating that a Wall of Fire is not REALLY an attack. It kills 3 enemy minions, but it is not REALLY an attack. WT?That's just nonsensical.We should go with the logical (and English) definition of the word attack instead of limiting it to Attack Checks because the logical definition avoids stupid stuff like this example. The logical definition is also RAW (e.g. if a feat that affects attacks does not state that it is limited to Attack Rolls, then it is not) and it also appears to be RAI.Granted, I understand the POV that attacks are only attacks if they have the Attack keyword, but to me, that just means that attacks only have attack check rolls if they have the Attack keyword.To me, the Attack keyword is not the definition of an attack. It is the definition of needing an Attack Check.Just like a Wall of Fire really does affect targets, even though it does not have the Target keyword.Another thing. In the Evasion feat, the word attack is not capitalized. The Attack keyword appears to be always capitalized.To me, they are not the same. The non-capitalized word attack simply means the English word attack. It does not mean the Attack keyword. YMMV.Ditto for Target.Feats that affect power keywords like Astra Fire state things like:"when you use a power that has the fire or radiant keyword"Explicit over Implicit.</blockquote>

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