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<blockquote data-quote="eamon" data-source="post: 4367934" data-attributes="member: 51942">Another corner case:&nbsp; combine (Greater) Invisibility with the fighter stance Rain of Steel:Assuming an &quot;attack&quot; is simply an attack power; then if you become invisible and later activate the (level 5 attack power) Rain of Steel, you would become visible, but if you first activate Rain of Steel and then become invisible...Well, Rain of Steel simply deals 1[W] damage to each adjacent opponent without any attack roll, or, for that matter, any action at all - the opponent merely needs to start its turn adjacent to you and you need to be able to make opportunity attacks.(Edit for completeness:&nbsp; and of course, if an attack actually requires an attack roll, then you can use the stance rain of steel while invisible without becoming visible, no matter the order in which the abilities are activated)I see the fun already; stick the invisible pit-fighter in the hornets nest, then run and wait for him to whack everything.&nbsp; Ideally, he'd have some easy healing ability - like the regeneration provided by the improved stance &quot;unyielding avalanche&quot;, and some useful non-attack standard actions to keep him busy.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="eamon, post: 4367934, member: 51942"] Another corner case: combine (Greater) Invisibility with the fighter stance Rain of Steel: Assuming an "attack" is simply an attack power; then if you become invisible and later activate the (level 5 attack power) Rain of Steel, you would become visible, but if you first activate Rain of Steel and then become invisible... Well, Rain of Steel simply deals 1[W] damage to each adjacent opponent without any attack roll, or, for that matter, any action at all - the opponent merely needs to start its turn adjacent to you and you need to be [I]able[/I] to make opportunity attacks. (Edit for completeness: and of course, if an attack actually requires an attack roll, then you can use the stance rain of steel while invisible without becoming visible, no matter the order in which the abilities are activated) I see the fun already; stick the invisible pit-fighter in the hornets nest, then run and wait for him to whack everything. Ideally, he'd have some easy healing ability - like the regeneration provided by the improved stance "unyielding avalanche", and some useful non-attack standard actions to keep him busy. [/QUOTE]

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