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<blockquote data-quote="Akodoken" data-source="post: 9539991" data-attributes="member: 6702840">I can only speak to my experience, I agree. I never really connected with Cyberpunk 2020. Mostly because I struggled with the genre's themes, I didn't understand &quot;cyberpunk&quot; even if I admired the aesthetics. Cyberpunk 2077 opened my eyes to understanding and I finally connected with it. I was able to go back to CP2020 and I grokked the whole thing. I've been enjoying a lot of cyberpunk lit too.My group asked me to run Cyberpunk RED for them earlier this year and I struggled with the book. I agree, it felt very Post-Apocalyptic. While 2020 was &quot;We're going to lose but we'll fight and bring down as much of the system as we can,&quot; RED felt a lot like, &quot;We lost and now we're just trying to survive.&quot; It wasn't hard to inject the cyberpunk back into it but I had to do that work. Or one could gloss over chunks of the setting as presented in the book. I wonder how many folks did that without realizing it? Either way, my experience reflects your point. Cyberpunk RED did not feel like 2020 or 2077. It was not bad. It is excellent! My group and I enjoyed it and will play it again. Just saying there was a hurdle there to overcome.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Akodoken, post: 9539991, member: 6702840"] I can only speak to my experience, I agree. I never really connected with Cyberpunk 2020. Mostly because I struggled with the genre's themes, I didn't understand "cyberpunk" even if I admired the aesthetics. Cyberpunk 2077 opened my eyes to understanding and I finally connected with it. I was able to go back to CP2020 and I grokked the whole thing. I've been enjoying a lot of cyberpunk lit too. My group asked me to run Cyberpunk RED for them earlier this year and I struggled with the book. I agree, it felt very Post-Apocalyptic. While 2020 was "We're going to lose but we'll fight and bring down as much of the system as we can," RED felt a lot like, "We lost and now we're just trying to survive." It wasn't hard to inject the cyberpunk back into it but I had to do that work. Or one could gloss over chunks of the setting as presented in the book. I wonder how many folks did that without realizing it? Either way, my experience reflects your point. Cyberpunk RED did not feel like 2020 or 2077. It was not bad. It is excellent! My group and I enjoyed it and will play it again. Just saying there was a hurdle there to overcome. [/QUOTE]

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