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<blockquote data-quote="fba827" data-source="post: 4857287" data-attributes="member: 807"><p>Updating DNS zone files to remove a subdomain (the enworld part of enworld.XXX.com) on a domain that itself is still otherwise active (cyberstreet.com) can often one of the last things an ISP gets around to doing, especially if enworld still has a relationship with cyberstreet than any admin would always hesitate to touch it 'just in case' it would break something and annoy a current customer.</p><p></p><p>It can be months or years before it gets completely removed (if ever) - it's just a low priority item unless there is a reason to make it a priority (which, in this case, I doubt).</p><p></p><p>So, my guess is that as a byproduct of them doing something else, those zone files just happened to get updated, thus removing stuff that worked before (which legitimately was requested stopped a while ago).</p><p></p><p></p><p> (I say this based on my 10+ years of management experience at ISPs in the Washington dc area and from speaking to my equals at other isps in the area - that's not to say all ISPs work that way, but it jives with the trends I have personally seen). </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Just curious, what happens when you go to the following website from work: http://68.68.204.19/</p><p></p><p>it might work for you depending on how enworld.org is blocked. a small chance, but worth a try since it's effortless.</p><p></p><p>(note that the above won't always work if sometime down the line enworld changes ip addresses/hosts/something... which isn't a common thing but always possible down the road at some point)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Personally, I'd replace the word "should" with "could" - you are correct in that some offices block urls based on url content words. but it really all depends on the method they use to block. some do it based on the subject content terms and there are several sources that a network admin can use to gather info about a site -automatically- without needing to personally screen it. So even if Morrus had a redirecting url called www.work-place-friendly-site-that-contains-no-porn-or-unproductive-information.com that brought you to enworld.org it would still register as</p><p></p><p> "DMOZ Description: Latest news and reviews along with forums and a conversion library, and archives of Eric Noah's site."</p><p> "DMOZ Category: / Games / Roleplaying / Genres / Fantasy / Dungeons & Dragons / Third Edition / "</p><p></p><p>with an automated system that grabs info about sites (the above is only two lines of the generated content reading using a basic tool that grabs info from the official domain registry and other databases for enworld.org). So if the word "game" is blocked from the category term list, etc, no matter what the url it'd still get blocked.</p><p></p><p>so if they use url word matching (admittedly, a more common method), it just becomes a guessing game as to what words would be okay to bypass the block.</p><p></p><p>if they use content matching to block (or just get a list of urls to block from an outside vendor who probably uses content matching to generate that list), then morrus would either need to 'bluff' what his sites keywords and categories are, or else the other url would just get subjected to the same block that enworld.org has.</p><p></p><p>i'm not saying it's a bad idea to have an alternate url. but it may not be as productive as simply having it. (plus, once he does have it, any change he ever makes will have to get timed with the other URL or else things will start to break for the subset of people that bookmarked the alt-url, etc etc).</p><p></p><p></p><p>i'm rambling so i'll stop typing now; i'm working with no sleep here. sorry! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fba827, post: 4857287, member: 807"] Updating DNS zone files to remove a subdomain (the enworld part of enworld.XXX.com) on a domain that itself is still otherwise active (cyberstreet.com) can often one of the last things an ISP gets around to doing, especially if enworld still has a relationship with cyberstreet than any admin would always hesitate to touch it 'just in case' it would break something and annoy a current customer. It can be months or years before it gets completely removed (if ever) - it's just a low priority item unless there is a reason to make it a priority (which, in this case, I doubt). So, my guess is that as a byproduct of them doing something else, those zone files just happened to get updated, thus removing stuff that worked before (which legitimately was requested stopped a while ago). (I say this based on my 10+ years of management experience at ISPs in the Washington dc area and from speaking to my equals at other isps in the area - that's not to say all ISPs work that way, but it jives with the trends I have personally seen). Just curious, what happens when you go to the following website from work: http://68.68.204.19/ it might work for you depending on how enworld.org is blocked. a small chance, but worth a try since it's effortless. (note that the above won't always work if sometime down the line enworld changes ip addresses/hosts/something... which isn't a common thing but always possible down the road at some point) Personally, I'd replace the word "should" with "could" - you are correct in that some offices block urls based on url content words. but it really all depends on the method they use to block. some do it based on the subject content terms and there are several sources that a network admin can use to gather info about a site -automatically- without needing to personally screen it. So even if Morrus had a redirecting url called www.work-place-friendly-site-that-contains-no-porn-or-unproductive-information.com that brought you to enworld.org it would still register as "DMOZ Description: Latest news and reviews along with forums and a conversion library, and archives of Eric Noah's site." "DMOZ Category: / Games / Roleplaying / Genres / Fantasy / Dungeons & Dragons / Third Edition / " with an automated system that grabs info about sites (the above is only two lines of the generated content reading using a basic tool that grabs info from the official domain registry and other databases for enworld.org). So if the word "game" is blocked from the category term list, etc, no matter what the url it'd still get blocked. so if they use url word matching (admittedly, a more common method), it just becomes a guessing game as to what words would be okay to bypass the block. if they use content matching to block (or just get a list of urls to block from an outside vendor who probably uses content matching to generate that list), then morrus would either need to 'bluff' what his sites keywords and categories are, or else the other url would just get subjected to the same block that enworld.org has. i'm not saying it's a bad idea to have an alternate url. but it may not be as productive as simply having it. (plus, once he does have it, any change he ever makes will have to get timed with the other URL or else things will start to break for the subset of people that bookmarked the alt-url, etc etc). i'm rambling so i'll stop typing now; i'm working with no sleep here. sorry! :) [/QUOTE]
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