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<blockquote data-quote="Irda Ranger" data-source="post: 4541323" data-attributes="member: 1003">I think it's actually easier than 3E. Because of the universal mechanics (not just d20, but effects like stun and slide) you can see the tradeoffs the different classes have made. That makes it much easier to adjust the settings, so to speak.That's a feature, not a bug.&nbsp; Put another way, it's crystal clear what each class is good at.B.s.&nbsp; How much money have you spent on 3.x vs. 4.0?&nbsp; A lot more, I bet. You already own all the options.Sure they are. It's called playing a Rogue. The &quot;Fighter&quot; (the class) is the heavy weapons guy. If you want to be a skirmisher play a Ranger or Rogue. They're Martial classes for a reason.Bah. Your arguments are old &amp; tired. They've been aired a hundred times already.4E is designed so that each book is &quot;complete.&quot; You don't need any additional books to play a Fighter. That's pretty cool. The additional books will bring whole new classes, races and power sources (and those books will also be &quot;complete&quot; in that sense).The fact is that lots of people like buying more race &amp; class options. That's not my cup of tea, but I understand the market demand there, so WotC would be dumb to let someone else supply it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Irda Ranger, post: 4541323, member: 1003"] I think it's actually easier than 3E. Because of the universal mechanics (not just d20, but effects like stun and slide) you can see the tradeoffs the different classes have made. That makes it much easier to adjust the settings, so to speak. That's a feature, not a bug. Put another way, it's crystal clear what each class is good at. B.s. How much money have you spent on 3.x vs. 4.0? A lot more, I bet. You already own all the options. Sure they are. It's called playing a Rogue. The "Fighter" (the class) is the heavy weapons guy. If you want to be a skirmisher play a Ranger or Rogue. They're Martial classes for a reason. Bah. Your arguments are old & tired. They've been aired a hundred times already. 4E is designed so that each book is "complete." You don't need any additional books to play a Fighter. That's pretty cool. The additional books will bring whole new classes, races and power sources (and those books will also be "complete" in that sense). The fact is that lots of people like buying more race & class options. That's not my cup of tea, but I understand the market demand there, so WotC would be dumb to let someone else supply it. [/QUOTE]

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