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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Genesist" data-source="post: 5539628" data-attributes="member: 6668459">I've been working on creating the ultimate tank without anything too  cheezy (please, no cheese-wrought kobolds, punpuns, or blackguards with  infinite stats). I'd like people's opinions and advice on optimizing  this build. The goal of this is max HP with decent attacking abilities,  but I am not looking for ways of agro tanking. I am well aware of  dwarven defender, but choose not to use it due to sub-optimal feats and  the ease of avoiding defensive stance. I realize this could be avoided  using a knight or a crusader, but knight is sub-optimal IMO and crusader  would lead to a completely different build. I realize that the  stoneblessed levels could be removed if I started with a dwarf, such as  the earth dwarf, but tested this and found it just made the int  requirements too steep to b-line for the other classes. I'd specifically  like advice on what items to use since magic items are not a  possibility.Race: Dragonborn (races of the dragon) water orc  (unearthed arcana), heart aspect (gives breath weapon with save based on  con mod, wing option is useless as you are too heavy to fly without 2  feats)Stats = +4 con, +4 str, -2 dex, -2 wis, -2 int, -2 cha.Level 1: Barbarian eagle variant (unearthed arcana): +2 on spot check, rage 1/day. Feat: Iron willLevel 2: Barbraian: uncanny dodgeLevel 3: Barbarian: lightning reflexes. Feat: great fortitudeLevel 4: Forsaker (masters of the wild): (con +1 from level) con +1, fast healing 1 (10), forsake magic, SR 11Level 5: Forsaker: con +1, SR 12, magic destruction, damage reduction 3/+1Level 6: Forsaker: con +1, SR 13, natural weapons, fast healing 1 (20), con mod to nat armor. Feat: entangling exhalationLevel  7: Stoneblessed (RoS): dwarf: apparaise, intimidate, knowledge  dungeoneering and architecture as class skills, +2 on appraise and craftLevel 8: Stoneblessed: (con +1 from level) +4 AC vs. gaints, +1 on attack rolls vs orcs and goblinoidsLevel 9: Stoneblessed: you count as a dwarf now for all purposes, +2 con, +2 on stone search, automatically search for secret doors, know depth. Feat: enduranceLevel 10: Deepwarden (RoS): track, trap sense +1Level 11: Deepwarden: Con as armor bonus (not limited by armor, you now get con to AC twice!) Level 12: Forsaker: feat: power attack, (con +1 from level), con +1, SR 14, damage reduction 5/+2Level 13: Forsaker: con +1, SR 15, fast healing 2 (30)Level 14: Forsaker: con +1, SR 16, damage reduction 7/+3, slippery mindLevel 15: Forsaker: con +1, SR 17, feat: ???, fast healing 2 (40)Level 16: Forsaker: (con +1 from level), con +1, SR 18, damage reduction 9/+4Level 17: Forsaker: con +1, SR 19, fast healing 3 (50)Level 18: Forsaker: con +1, SR 20, feat: ???, damage reduction 11/+5Level 19:???Level 20: ??? (con +1 from level)The  number after the normal damage reduction is for overcoming others  damage reduction, for those who don't know a forsaker must destroy 100  gp worth of magic items each day to get each point of DR.So, thoughts everyone?</blockquote>

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