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<blockquote data-quote="Stalker0" data-source="post: 9421553" data-attributes="member: 5889"><p>Rogue: Hey wizard look what I can do! I can basically grapple anyone, anywhere. I can prone them, I can move them at half my speed at any point. Hehe its pretty darn strong, I mean....what are you going to do in the combat?</p><p></p><p>Wizard: Oh buddy that's really good. Me....not much. I thought about maybe altering reality with a wish, or making myself completely invulnerable to all damage. Or just encase them in an unescapable force cage. But your stuff is really good too buddy!!</p><p></p><p></p><p>In seriousness, yes high level grappling was very strong.....at a time when everyone complained about how weak martials was. It was weak control, but it was practically automatic control, giving it a nice contrast from the spellcasters who had stronger controls but were less likely to succeed.</p><p></p><p>When I have a player that was willing to give up all of their damage of a combat in order to grapple something (in what are often 3 round combats), I wouldn't consider that busted.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Stalker0, post: 9421553, member: 5889"] Rogue: Hey wizard look what I can do! I can basically grapple anyone, anywhere. I can prone them, I can move them at half my speed at any point. Hehe its pretty darn strong, I mean....what are you going to do in the combat? Wizard: Oh buddy that's really good. Me....not much. I thought about maybe altering reality with a wish, or making myself completely invulnerable to all damage. Or just encase them in an unescapable force cage. But your stuff is really good too buddy!! In seriousness, yes high level grappling was very strong.....at a time when everyone complained about how weak martials was. It was weak control, but it was practically automatic control, giving it a nice contrast from the spellcasters who had stronger controls but were less likely to succeed. When I have a player that was willing to give up all of their damage of a combat in order to grapple something (in what are often 3 round combats), I wouldn't consider that busted. [/QUOTE]
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