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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9424181" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>Oh wow, that is such a big list. But wait... what if it looked like this? </p><p></p><p>[SPOILER="The list?"]</p><p><strong><u>Barbarian</u></strong>:</p><p>Retaliation</p><p>Branches of the Tree</p><p></p><p><strong><u>Bard</u></strong>:</p><p>Countercharm (changed, now a reaction, unlimited uses)</p><p>Inspiring Movement (Reaction attack essentially at will for a use of a BI)</p><p>Unbreakable Majesty</p><p>Cutting Words (more uses)</p><p></p><p><strong><u>Cleric</u></strong>:</p><p>Warding Flare (much more uses and usable on allies from level 3)</p><p></p><p><strong><u>Ranger</u></strong>:</p><p>Beguiling Twist</p><p></p><p><strong><u>Fighter</u></strong>:</p><p>Protection (rarely saw this before now mechanically probably the best fighting style)</p><p>Indomitable (more uses)</p><p>Battlemasters get unlimited d8s for maneuvers at higher levels (presumably meaning unlimited reaction maneuvers)</p><p></p><p><strong><u>Monk</u></strong>:</p><p>Deflect Attacks (works on all attacks, not just ranged, this is going to be used almost every turn)</p><p></p><p><strong><u>Warlock</u></strong>:</p><p>Steps of the Fey</p><p>Beguiling Defenses</p><p></p><p><strong><u>General</u></strong>:</p><p>Heroic Reroll (gives Heroic Inspiration every single round, unlimited use)</p><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>Huh, well... that looks far less intimidating doesn't it? I mean, a single reaction for monk's, a single reaction for clerics. Ah, but silly me, it is just that there are so many NEW reactions, right? I'm sure if I look I'll find...</p><p></p><p>[SPOILER="The NEW list?"]</p><p><strong><u>Barbarian</u></strong>:</p><p><s>Retaliation</s></p><p>Branches of the Tree</p><p></p><p><strong><u>Bard</u></strong>:</p><p>Countercharm (changed, now a reaction, unlimited uses)</p><p>Inspiring Movement (Reaction attack essentially at will for a use of a BI)</p><p><s>Unbreakable Majesty</s></p><p><s>Cutting Words (more uses)</s></p><p></p><p><strong><u>Cleric</u></strong>:</p><p><s>Warding Flare (much more uses and usable on allies from level 3)</s></p><p></p><p><strong><u>Ranger</u></strong>:</p><p><s>Beguiling Twist</s></p><p></p><p><strong><u>Fighter</u></strong>:</p><p><s>Protection (rarely saw this before now mechanically probably the best fighting style)</s></p><p><s>Indomitable (more uses)</s></p><p><s>Battlemasters get unlimited d8s for maneuvers at higher levels (presumably meaning unlimited reaction maneuvers)</s></p><p></p><p><strong><u>Monk</u></strong>:</p><p>Deflect Attacks (works on all attacks, not just ranged, this is going to be used almost every turn)</p><p></p><p><strong><u>Warlock</u></strong>:</p><p><s>Steps of the Fey</s></p><p><s>Beguiling Defenses</s></p><p></p><p><strong><u>General</u></strong>:</p><p>Heroic Reroll (gives Heroic Inspiration every single round, unlimited use)</p><p>[/SPOILER]</p><p></p><p>Huh... four new reactions? And the heroic inspiration can't forget that. Except, multiple people, myself included have come out and said... that this is exactly how they rule inspiration anyways. So it is only a change for some tables. </p><p></p><p>Oh, but silly me, I need to account for things having more uses... for some reason... Why? I mean, any given character only has a single reaction per round. If this is going to be "so much more complicated and difficult for DMs" then... why is being able to use it four times instead of three a big deal? It is still only once per round. </p><p></p><p>And, on to the point about them not being new, this is what I mean. Was anyone ringing alarm bells if they had a Feywarlock, Fey Ranger, Ancestral Guardian Barbarian and a Lore bard on their team? Not really. No one ever really said "The bard using cutting words, the Barbarian using Spirit Shield, and the Feylock using Misty Escape... it is just too many reactions!!" So why would a Feywarlock, Fey Ranger, World Tree Barbarian and a Lore bard be any different? </p><p></p><p>I mean sure, your initial list is big and scary, but since you only have four new reactions, and you didn't include AT LEAST five that I can think of off the top of my head... what's the big deal?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Okay, so bad options got better. WoTC ALREADY had multiple settings where a 1st level Magic Initiate Feat was a legal choice. So... you are mostly just going to see reactions more consistently, instead of it being limited to specific parties. Also, everyone using their reaction all the time for everything means more freedom to move monsters around without opportunity attacks, correct? </p><p></p><p>I mean, it isn't uncommon for me to see combats with people using 2 to 3 reactions per round already. So I don't get the panic.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9424181, member: 6801228"] Oh wow, that is such a big list. But wait... what if it looked like this? [SPOILER="The list?"] [B][U]Barbarian[/U][/B]: Retaliation Branches of the Tree [B][U]Bard[/U][/B]: Countercharm (changed, now a reaction, unlimited uses) Inspiring Movement (Reaction attack essentially at will for a use of a BI) Unbreakable Majesty Cutting Words (more uses) [B][U]Cleric[/U][/B]: Warding Flare (much more uses and usable on allies from level 3) [B][U]Ranger[/U][/B]: Beguiling Twist [B][U]Fighter[/U][/B]: Protection (rarely saw this before now mechanically probably the best fighting style) Indomitable (more uses) Battlemasters get unlimited d8s for maneuvers at higher levels (presumably meaning unlimited reaction maneuvers) [B][U]Monk[/U][/B]: Deflect Attacks (works on all attacks, not just ranged, this is going to be used almost every turn) [B][U]Warlock[/U][/B]: Steps of the Fey Beguiling Defenses [B][U]General[/U][/B]: Heroic Reroll (gives Heroic Inspiration every single round, unlimited use) [/SPOILER] Huh, well... that looks far less intimidating doesn't it? I mean, a single reaction for monk's, a single reaction for clerics. Ah, but silly me, it is just that there are so many NEW reactions, right? I'm sure if I look I'll find... [SPOILER="The NEW list?"] [B][U]Barbarian[/U][/B]: [S]Retaliation[/S] Branches of the Tree [B][U]Bard[/U][/B]: Countercharm (changed, now a reaction, unlimited uses) Inspiring Movement (Reaction attack essentially at will for a use of a BI) [S]Unbreakable Majesty Cutting Words (more uses)[/S] [B][U]Cleric[/U][/B]: [S]Warding Flare (much more uses and usable on allies from level 3)[/S] [B][U]Ranger[/U][/B]: [S]Beguiling Twist[/S] [B][U]Fighter[/U][/B]: [S]Protection (rarely saw this before now mechanically probably the best fighting style) Indomitable (more uses) Battlemasters get unlimited d8s for maneuvers at higher levels (presumably meaning unlimited reaction maneuvers)[/S] [B][U]Monk[/U][/B]: Deflect Attacks (works on all attacks, not just ranged, this is going to be used almost every turn) [B][U]Warlock[/U][/B]: [S]Steps of the Fey Beguiling Defenses[/S] [B][U]General[/U][/B]: Heroic Reroll (gives Heroic Inspiration every single round, unlimited use) [/SPOILER] Huh... four new reactions? And the heroic inspiration can't forget that. Except, multiple people, myself included have come out and said... that this is exactly how they rule inspiration anyways. So it is only a change for some tables. Oh, but silly me, I need to account for things having more uses... for some reason... Why? I mean, any given character only has a single reaction per round. If this is going to be "so much more complicated and difficult for DMs" then... why is being able to use it four times instead of three a big deal? It is still only once per round. And, on to the point about them not being new, this is what I mean. Was anyone ringing alarm bells if they had a Feywarlock, Fey Ranger, Ancestral Guardian Barbarian and a Lore bard on their team? Not really. No one ever really said "The bard using cutting words, the Barbarian using Spirit Shield, and the Feylock using Misty Escape... it is just too many reactions!!" So why would a Feywarlock, Fey Ranger, World Tree Barbarian and a Lore bard be any different? I mean sure, your initial list is big and scary, but since you only have four new reactions, and you didn't include AT LEAST five that I can think of off the top of my head... what's the big deal? Okay, so bad options got better. WoTC ALREADY had multiple settings where a 1st level Magic Initiate Feat was a legal choice. So... you are mostly just going to see reactions more consistently, instead of it being limited to specific parties. Also, everyone using their reaction all the time for everything means more freedom to move monsters around without opportunity attacks, correct? I mean, it isn't uncommon for me to see combats with people using 2 to 3 reactions per round already. So I don't get the panic. [/QUOTE]
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