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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9431226" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>I am not saying this. Maybe someone else is, but I am not.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Did you bother to listen to what you posted?</p><p></p><p>From 25:20</p><p></p><p>Treantmonk: <em>"[combat encounters] might take fewer rounds but I don't think they will be faster</em><strong><u><em>, because I think the rounds will take longer.</em></u></strong><em> Everybody has a bonus action they can do, reaction they can do, there is some stuff people can do at the start of their turn that doesn't take an action, there will be more saving throws. So I think a round of combat is going to take longer, a person's turn is going to take longer, but I can't see them taking as long" </em>(note in context the last 7 words he is talking about rounds, not time)</p><p></p><p>D4: <em>"My hunch is they will take longer for the reasons that you mention, but I think also maybe take more rounds"</em></p><p></p><p>Later at 33:00</p><p></p><p>D4: <em>"I tend to think combat will take a little bit longer, you think it will be fewer rounds but maybe longer"</em></p><p><em></em></p><p>Pretty much sounds like exactly what I have been saying! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":-)" title="Smile :-)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":-)" /></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No they do other things. While reactions are the biggest thing that will make combat longer lots of other things will too, like Treatmonk points out in the video you posted.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Persuasion, Intimidation, hide, Athletics, Insight, Perception, thieves tools check .....</p><p></p><p>Really anything</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Eldritch Knight was your example, not mine.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I have never presented that way. Not one time in any post. I said I think combat will take longer. I said I think rounds will take longer (and Treantmonk unequivocally agrees) and I said that was frustrating for me as a DM.</p><p></p><p>I never said it was a problem. Combat already takes a long time in 5E, if I thought it was a problem I would not be playing 5E, I would be playing 1E or 2E where combat is much quicker. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I am saying an individual turn will be longer and since turns will be longer rounds will be longer. I think there is ample evidence to support that theory that and now that you posted the video Im know the experts agree on that. I also think overall combat will be longer.</p><p></p><p>I don't think you will be convinced until you play.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9431226, member: 7030563"] I am not saying this. Maybe someone else is, but I am not. Did you bother to listen to what you posted? From 25:20 Treantmonk: [I]"[combat encounters] might take fewer rounds but I don't think they will be faster[/I][B][U][I], because I think the rounds will take longer.[/I][/U][/B][I] Everybody has a bonus action they can do, reaction they can do, there is some stuff people can do at the start of their turn that doesn't take an action, there will be more saving throws. So I think a round of combat is going to take longer, a person's turn is going to take longer, but I can't see them taking as long" [/I](note in context the last 7 words he is talking about rounds, not time) D4: [I]"My hunch is they will take longer for the reasons that you mention, but I think also maybe take more rounds"[/I] Later at 33:00 D4: [I]"I tend to think combat will take a little bit longer, you think it will be fewer rounds but maybe longer" [/I] Pretty much sounds like exactly what I have been saying! :-) No they do other things. While reactions are the biggest thing that will make combat longer lots of other things will too, like Treatmonk points out in the video you posted. Yes. Persuasion, Intimidation, hide, Athletics, Insight, Perception, thieves tools check ..... Really anything Eldritch Knight was your example, not mine. I have never presented that way. Not one time in any post. I said I think combat will take longer. I said I think rounds will take longer (and Treantmonk unequivocally agrees) and I said that was frustrating for me as a DM. I never said it was a problem. Combat already takes a long time in 5E, if I thought it was a problem I would not be playing 5E, I would be playing 1E or 2E where combat is much quicker. I am saying an individual turn will be longer and since turns will be longer rounds will be longer. I think there is ample evidence to support that theory that and now that you posted the video Im know the experts agree on that. I also think overall combat will be longer. I don't think you will be convinced until you play. [/QUOTE]
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