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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9431353" data-attributes="member: 6801228">So you completely ignored where he said that combats will likely have fewer rounds, so that combat itself will not be slower even if the rounds are slightly longer? I mean, I literally told you to listen past the part where you would want to stop and declare victory, which is exactly the part you are quoting to tell me that you are right. And yeah, D4 said he felt that combat might take longer, but he attributed that to the decreasing of spike damage as well. And when Treantmonk challenged him on that, he referenced back to their earlier 25 minute conversation about whether or not damage as a whole is higher or lower in the new rules. And while yes, you keep focusing on the every round, you keep extrapolating that to all of combat and then the entire game being slower. Whereas the opinion presented is that even if the round is slightly longer, overall, the rest of the game won't actually be slowed down.So did you just want a reprint with zero rules changes? Because you have at this point complained about every single thing, individually. Did you ever think that there were going to be zero new mechanics in the 2024 rules? Is Conjure Animals being changed going to slow down combat, because now rather than a banned spell you never allowed, the Druid is going to have a spell that does something? Are the changes to the Barbarian now going to slow down combat, because the Barbarian is less likely to lose rage? Does the fact that the paladin now has options for smites going to slow down combat, because they will no longer attack robotically with no thought to the tactical situation?So... what? "I think combat will take longer, that makes me growly, but ultimately I don't care, except to argue for dozens of pages that it absolutely will take longer no matter what anyone says to the contrary?"Considering I have played a few games with 2024 characters... I don't think playing more of them will convince me of something I've never seen any evidence for in play.</blockquote>

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