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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 9439853" data-attributes="member: 6795602">I have some significant doubt here since stealth is definitely not the same as it was in the playtest. For the 2024 version they removed some very key rules compared to the playtest.  What they kept of it was fairly similar though.Most people I find mean ‘the round where you are surprised’ when referring to a surprise round in 5e. So while the rules don’t call it that, the concept is still applicable despite not being the same thing as 3e.I’ve not encountered many that think 5e surprise works like 3e surprise but I get how that could cause some confusion.Amazes me you’ve never encountered surprise round being used that way before.The alternative is something like - ‘that’s technically wrong, it’s actually xyz, but that doesn’t really diminish your point’</blockquote>