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<blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9469708" data-attributes="member: 6801228"><p>It really isn't surprising that they have vagueness in place, when people are so quick to treat ink on paper as rules carved into the fundament of the universe. </p><p></p><p>///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, they really really are not. </p><p></p><p>The problem is people are seeing the Subclass mechanics as a reality. </p><p></p><p>Warlock's don't choose their patron abilities until level 3 =/= The warlock has no idea who their patron is at level 1.</p><p>Clerics don't get their unique divine powers until level 3 =/= The Cleric has no clue which gods they worship at level 1</p><p>The Paladin does not get oath specific abilities until level 3 =/= The Paladin does not have an oath or devotion to a cause at level 1</p><p></p><p>You are perfectly fine to decide those things before the mechanics, because levels 1 and 2 are designed with the intent of being training levels. Maybe your paladin has never sworn a single oath before level 3, maybe they went through a full knighting ceremony before level 1. It is a NARRATIVE choice, which is completely free to be independent from the subclass choice at level 3. Especially since all of these things are perfectly mutable. </p><p></p><p>I can have a Fey Pact warlock who did not make a pact with a Faerie. It is perfectly fine to do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Chaosmancer, post: 9469708, member: 6801228"] It really isn't surprising that they have vagueness in place, when people are so quick to treat ink on paper as rules carved into the fundament of the universe. /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// No, they really really are not. The problem is people are seeing the Subclass mechanics as a reality. Warlock's don't choose their patron abilities until level 3 =/= The warlock has no idea who their patron is at level 1. Clerics don't get their unique divine powers until level 3 =/= The Cleric has no clue which gods they worship at level 1 The Paladin does not get oath specific abilities until level 3 =/= The Paladin does not have an oath or devotion to a cause at level 1 You are perfectly fine to decide those things before the mechanics, because levels 1 and 2 are designed with the intent of being training levels. Maybe your paladin has never sworn a single oath before level 3, maybe they went through a full knighting ceremony before level 1. It is a NARRATIVE choice, which is completely free to be independent from the subclass choice at level 3. Especially since all of these things are perfectly mutable. I can have a Fey Pact warlock who did not make a pact with a Faerie. It is perfectly fine to do. [/QUOTE]
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