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<blockquote data-quote="Mecheon" data-source="post: 9469769" data-attributes="member: 6801776"><p>Powerful Build got removed from orcs</p><p></p><p></p><p>This is the starter book supposed to show you a wide variety of options to pick from, not the "Most popular choices in game's history" book. Popularity absolutely should sit to the side for a wider assortment of niches to give new players a wider option. I don't think Half Elf is really quite as distinct as Half Angel or Half Giant so I absolutely would prefer Aasimar and Goliaths remain over them as they bring something unique to the table, while half elves are defined by being half of elves</p><p></p><p>Also if I were being the cruel person trying to make more sales on an online platform? Locking half elves, a popular choice, behind a paywell? That's how you get a lot of money from folks.</p><p></p><p></p><p>They're still races that are requested when not around, and we did just spend most of 5E's lifespan requesting thri-kreen, plus an untold number of homebrew ones done up for it. Me liking a race doesn't mean it should be in the PHB, the very first book you are expected to start the game with, and races being popular also shouldn't have an impact there either.</p><p></p><p></p><p>They have a charisma buff in an edition where charisma is king, the other two stat options could be whatever, and that alone puts them in the top percentage. They are absolutely a powerful race. Go and read up on any of the forums that do class guides or the lot, they flat out say its only competition for most powerful race is Variant Human and that's because a level 1 feat is just that much more powerful</p><p></p><p></p><p>No they wouldn't because they've been watered down versions of elves for the past 30+ years of this game's existence?</p><p></p><p>How are they not like elves? They've got fey ancestry, they've got a whole pack of half elfy options they can pick from that are watered down from the actual elf options, all they get from humans is Versatility, even if its stronger than the human option. They don't have anything unique to themselves. That's why they're not in the PHB and they'll appear down the line.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mecheon, post: 9469769, member: 6801776"] Powerful Build got removed from orcs This is the starter book supposed to show you a wide variety of options to pick from, not the "Most popular choices in game's history" book. Popularity absolutely should sit to the side for a wider assortment of niches to give new players a wider option. I don't think Half Elf is really quite as distinct as Half Angel or Half Giant so I absolutely would prefer Aasimar and Goliaths remain over them as they bring something unique to the table, while half elves are defined by being half of elves Also if I were being the cruel person trying to make more sales on an online platform? Locking half elves, a popular choice, behind a paywell? That's how you get a lot of money from folks. They're still races that are requested when not around, and we did just spend most of 5E's lifespan requesting thri-kreen, plus an untold number of homebrew ones done up for it. Me liking a race doesn't mean it should be in the PHB, the very first book you are expected to start the game with, and races being popular also shouldn't have an impact there either. They have a charisma buff in an edition where charisma is king, the other two stat options could be whatever, and that alone puts them in the top percentage. They are absolutely a powerful race. Go and read up on any of the forums that do class guides or the lot, they flat out say its only competition for most powerful race is Variant Human and that's because a level 1 feat is just that much more powerful No they wouldn't because they've been watered down versions of elves for the past 30+ years of this game's existence? How are they not like elves? They've got fey ancestry, they've got a whole pack of half elfy options they can pick from that are watered down from the actual elf options, all they get from humans is Versatility, even if its stronger than the human option. They don't have anything unique to themselves. That's why they're not in the PHB and they'll appear down the line. [/QUOTE]
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