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<blockquote data-quote="pemerton" data-source="post: 9472133" data-attributes="member: 42582"><p>I don't have the text of the book in front of me. But given that you suggested that this problem arises for 2014 paladins, and then - when the text was actually read and presented to you - it turned out that the problem didn't arise at all, I'm inclined to scepticism about the accuracy of your diagnosis on this occasion.</p><p></p><p>Since writing the above paragraph, I have Googled up the 2024 Warlock on DnD Beyond. Here's what it says:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">Warlocks quest for knowledge that lies hidden in the fabric of the multiverse. They often begin their search for magical power by delving into tomes of forbidden lore, dabbling in invocations meant to attract the power of extraplanar beings, or seeking places of power where the influence of these beings can be felt. In no time, each Warlock is drawn into a binding pact with a powerful patron. Drawing on the ancient knowledge of beings such as angels, archfey, demons, devils, hags, and alien entities of the Far Realm, Warlocks piece together arcane secrets to bolster their own power.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Warlocks view their patrons as resources, as means to the end of achieving magical power. Some Warlocks respect, revere, or even love their patrons; some serve their patrons grudgingly; and some seek to undermine their patrons even as they wield the power their patrons have given them.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Once a pact is made, a Warlock’s thirst for knowledge and power can’t be slaked with mere study. Most Warlocks spend their days pursuing greater power and deeper knowledge, which typically means some kind of adventure. . . .</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">You have unearthed Eldritch Invocations, pieces of forbidden knowledge that imbue you with an abiding magical ability or other lessons. . . .</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"></p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">Through occult ceremony, you have formed a pact with a mysterious entity to gain magical powers. The entity is a voice in the shadows - its identity unclear - but its boon to you is concrete: the ability to cast spells.</p><p></p><p>All this description applies to a 1st level Warlock. So there doesn't seem to be any uncertainty about how they have acquired their magical abilities: they have unearthed "forbidden knowledge" and in the course of doing so have formed a pact with a "mysterious entity". (The "occult ceremony" whereby the pact is formed is, presumably, one bit of the "forbidden knowledge" that the Warlock has unearthed.)</p><p></p><p>What is the problem supposed to be?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pemerton, post: 9472133, member: 42582"] I don't have the text of the book in front of me. But given that you suggested that this problem arises for 2014 paladins, and then - when the text was actually read and presented to you - it turned out that the problem didn't arise at all, I'm inclined to scepticism about the accuracy of your diagnosis on this occasion. Since writing the above paragraph, I have Googled up the 2024 Warlock on DnD Beyond. Here's what it says: [indent]Warlocks quest for knowledge that lies hidden in the fabric of the multiverse. They often begin their search for magical power by delving into tomes of forbidden lore, dabbling in invocations meant to attract the power of extraplanar beings, or seeking places of power where the influence of these beings can be felt. In no time, each Warlock is drawn into a binding pact with a powerful patron. Drawing on the ancient knowledge of beings such as angels, archfey, demons, devils, hags, and alien entities of the Far Realm, Warlocks piece together arcane secrets to bolster their own power. Warlocks view their patrons as resources, as means to the end of achieving magical power. Some Warlocks respect, revere, or even love their patrons; some serve their patrons grudgingly; and some seek to undermine their patrons even as they wield the power their patrons have given them. Once a pact is made, a Warlock’s thirst for knowledge and power can’t be slaked with mere study. Most Warlocks spend their days pursuing greater power and deeper knowledge, which typically means some kind of adventure. . . . You have unearthed Eldritch Invocations, pieces of forbidden knowledge that imbue you with an abiding magical ability or other lessons. . . . Through occult ceremony, you have formed a pact with a mysterious entity to gain magical powers. The entity is a voice in the shadows - its identity unclear - but its boon to you is concrete: the ability to cast spells.[/indent] All this description applies to a 1st level Warlock. So there doesn't seem to be any uncertainty about how they have acquired their magical abilities: they have unearthed "forbidden knowledge" and in the course of doing so have formed a pact with a "mysterious entity". (The "occult ceremony" whereby the pact is formed is, presumably, one bit of the "forbidden knowledge" that the Warlock has unearthed.) What is the problem supposed to be? [/QUOTE]
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