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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SteveC" data-source="post: 9479871" data-attributes="member: 9053">There's been some discussion of why Warlocks get special treatment as far as their patrons having control over their powers. I think that's been the case in this thread, but over the years there have been many, many discussions about Clerics and Paladins on this issue too. I just think the discussion in this thread comes from the personal nature of the pact in the case of the Warlock. Clerics and Paladins can definitely have issues based on not living up to their deity's beliefs. If you've read the Order of the Stick, there was a whole plotline about turning someone from a Paladin into a Fighter without all the bonus feats.Why the Warlock? I think it's because the relationship is designed as a Patron and the powers given are related to a Pact, which makes people think about whatever the Patron is asking for specific things. In the history of D&D, you have 100% had this discussion in other classes. I can even recall one or two of them about Wizards getting cut off from magic by certain actions. To me, the Warlock is getting special treatment here because it's a newer class, and the relationship is seen as very personal. The gods worshipped by divine characters have gradually become much more distant to avoid some discussions the came out of the 80s. That's my take on it anyway.I have a daughter who's at the age where she's doing mythology, and I'm enjoying the experience. I think when I was a kid this is where I developed a love of fantasy. We listened to the Podcast from Nat Geo, Greeking Out, and it made me think that a Cleric of Zeus could have a very personal relationship with their god. And could very easily have horrible things happen to them by being rude about really any of the gods. Now I will leave it as an exercise for all of you to decide whether the DM should portray those gods or not.</blockquote>

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