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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chaosmancer" data-source="post: 9480073" data-attributes="member: 6801228">I'm sure Pemerton addressed a lot of these points, but I wanted to step in here and make a few points of my own. The first being, not all deals are with Devils. I know you know this, but this really needs to be stated because of this insistence that the Warlock and their patron are antagonists. Maybe my patron is a Fey Lord who took me as part of a deal and raised me as their child. Maybe my Patron is a Genie who I freed from captivity. Maybe my patron is a Celestial Dragon who has taken me on as their apprentice in the Celestial Bureaucracy. When discussing Warlocks as a class, we have to remember that warlocks are not bound to "I sold my soul to the devil for power". Sure, that was kind of the root inspiration, sort of, but it has grown to encompass a much wider range of situations. Heck, even with Devils it isn't that cut and dry. There are dozens of ways to subvert the classic trope.But you do not need to be beholden. You need to have made a Pact. Making a deal with an incomprehensible mass of energy (GOO) that you will give them your left eye in exchange for a sliver of their power. That is a pact, that makes a warlock, but in no way are you beholden to them.Well, I think that is largely because such advice is nearly impossible to actually give. A Warlock's "Pact" can be almost anything. A contract, a verbal agreement, a debt for a service (either way), stolen power, a whim, the concept is so broad that any sort of advice for it needs to be equally vague and broad... to the point where it is basically identical to any advice you could give about "how to handle a NPC from a character's backstory"</blockquote>

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