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<blockquote data-quote="Ulorian - Agent of Chaos" data-source="post: 9492125" data-attributes="member: 16668"><p>"Strong" people resisting their ways? What do you mean? I was just talking about not letting someone suck the oxygen out of the room and deprive everyone else of an enjoyable time. No hard feelings, but if you can't play nice with others, you can have a chance, but if you don't adjust, go play somewhere else.</p><p></p><p>That's not being "strong" or macho or bullying or whatever it is you're implying; it's just common sense and basic social skills. Why would a group of people have to put up with someone making life unpleasant for everyone else? If that self-absorbed person is lucky, the group will be kind enough to make an effort to bring them aboard, but if they can't learn how to behave properly towards others, why would they let them keep coming back? The fault at that point doesn't lie with the group; it lies with the person who couldn't or wouldn't make the effort to behave with consideration towards others.</p><p></p><p>And if that person sees the efforts of others to not have their enjoyment diminished as "confrontation and won't sit meekly at the table" as a result as you put it... well then they will absolutely be shown the door as that is some pretty seriously anti-social behaviour.</p><p></p><p>Respectfully, I'm really struggling to understand what you're trying to defend here.</p><p></p><p>I said that more empathy in the world is what's needed, but it sounds like you're arguing against me for some reason? The type of person being discussed is the sort whose idea of empathy and compromise is having everyone else put these folks' feelings at the forefront and doing everything they want while not acknowledging what others want or feel, despite efforts by others at compromise. More prevalent in teens, agreed, but there are many adults like this unfortunately.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ulorian - Agent of Chaos, post: 9492125, member: 16668"] "Strong" people resisting their ways? What do you mean? I was just talking about not letting someone suck the oxygen out of the room and deprive everyone else of an enjoyable time. No hard feelings, but if you can't play nice with others, you can have a chance, but if you don't adjust, go play somewhere else. That's not being "strong" or macho or bullying or whatever it is you're implying; it's just common sense and basic social skills. Why would a group of people have to put up with someone making life unpleasant for everyone else? If that self-absorbed person is lucky, the group will be kind enough to make an effort to bring them aboard, but if they can't learn how to behave properly towards others, why would they let them keep coming back? The fault at that point doesn't lie with the group; it lies with the person who couldn't or wouldn't make the effort to behave with consideration towards others. And if that person sees the efforts of others to not have their enjoyment diminished as "confrontation and won't sit meekly at the table" as a result as you put it... well then they will absolutely be shown the door as that is some pretty seriously anti-social behaviour. Respectfully, I'm really struggling to understand what you're trying to defend here. I said that more empathy in the world is what's needed, but it sounds like you're arguing against me for some reason? The type of person being discussed is the sort whose idea of empathy and compromise is having everyone else put these folks' feelings at the forefront and doing everything they want while not acknowledging what others want or feel, despite efforts by others at compromise. More prevalent in teens, agreed, but there are many adults like this unfortunately. [/QUOTE]
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