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<blockquote data-quote="fluffybunbunkittens" data-source="post: 9432250" data-attributes="member: 7037492">I'm curious to see the effect of that. You can stack skill mods onto the Rogue so they don't even need to roll to beat specific thresholds (first 15, then 20), which could turn lv7+ games into a diceless experience (for skills the Rogue is trained in). Add in reactive boosts (lv2 Fighter Tactical Mind for +1d10 to anything when the exasperated GM says 'actually the DC is 21'), and you've covered a ton of ground.Where this affects the party right at lv1, is that they should acknowledge this, and make their skill picks accordingly. It is good for one person to have the same skill proficiency as the Rogue (because Help action requires proficiency now) but it should not be anyone's 'hey this is my thing that I am the go-to guy for' in the long term.I think it got brought down just because WotC absolutely hates the idea of giving Rogue subclasses a feature at lv6, so this was their way of avoiding that.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="fluffybunbunkittens, post: 9432250, member: 7037492"] I'm curious to see the effect of that. You can stack skill mods onto the Rogue so they don't even need to roll to beat specific thresholds (first 15, then 20), which could turn lv7+ games into a diceless experience (for skills the Rogue is trained in). Add in reactive boosts (lv2 Fighter Tactical Mind for +1d10 to anything when the exasperated GM says 'actually the DC is 21'), and you've covered a ton of ground. Where this affects the party right at lv1, is that they should acknowledge this, and make their skill picks accordingly. It is [I]good[/I] for one person to have the same skill proficiency as the Rogue (because Help action requires proficiency now) but it should not be anyone's 'hey this is my thing that I am the go-to guy for' in the long term. I think it got brought down just because WotC absolutely [I]hates[/I] the idea of giving Rogue subclasses a feature at lv6, so this was their way of avoiding that. [/QUOTE]

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