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<blockquote data-quote="ECMO3" data-source="post: 9438011" data-attributes="member: 7030563"><p>Fey Wanderer makes for a great primary spell caster. I've played two Rangers to high level - Lena a 17th level Goblin Ranger16/Rogue1 who had an 8 strength and 16 Dex at games end and Chromescale a 20th level Ranger who had an 8 and 14 respectively.</p><p></p><p>With a Fey Wanderer subclass and Tasha's Primal ability you get a ton of castings, almost on par with a full caster. Add a bunch of spells through feats and you have a great recipe for a controller. Both of the characters above took Shadow Touched (Cause Fear), Fey Touched (Lena got Hex, Chromsescale got Dissonant Whispers), and Telepathic. Chromescale also took the Dragonfear feat.</p><p></p><p>At high level they very rarely used weapons. They were all about control with Spike Growth, Dissonant Whispers, upcast Cause Fear and spamming concentration-free Summon Mirthful Fey. Against enemies that could be frightened, these were the best two control builds I have ever played, and I've played Wizards to 20th level. The combination of Summonning multiple Mirthful Fey, Beguiling Twist and Cause Fear (or Dragonfear feat) is freaking awesome.</p><p></p><p>I don't think Chromescale ever made a weapon attack after 15th level. Lena did, but not often and usually in clean up mode. Once near games end, she did go to town TWF with daggers against an enemy caster in an anti-magic shell and decimated him.</p><p></p><p>Lena was actually good in melee. She had a belt of Giant Strength, a Dragon Tooth dagger, 1d6 sneak attack, 1d6 Dreadful Strikes, and 1d8 Favored Foe if she was not concentrating, with advantage almost on demand from Nature's Viel. So her melee damage was not bad if she wanted to go into melee. It is just it was a lot more fun, and usually more effective, for her to control enemies. Lena was the most fun character I ever played bar none. The DM I played with was asked at a party in 2022 who was his favorite PC of the 20+ he had seen in our group until that time, and he named Lena as his favorite too.</p><p></p><p>Getting rid of abilities that enable that and making the class more martial focused takes away this kind of creativity.</p><p></p><p>Part of this too is Hunters Mark is just such a crappy spell both in terms of flavor and mechanics. If they gave us Hex instead I would be much happier.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ECMO3, post: 9438011, member: 7030563"] Fey Wanderer makes for a great primary spell caster. I've played two Rangers to high level - Lena a 17th level Goblin Ranger16/Rogue1 who had an 8 strength and 16 Dex at games end and Chromescale a 20th level Ranger who had an 8 and 14 respectively. With a Fey Wanderer subclass and Tasha's Primal ability you get a ton of castings, almost on par with a full caster. Add a bunch of spells through feats and you have a great recipe for a controller. Both of the characters above took Shadow Touched (Cause Fear), Fey Touched (Lena got Hex, Chromsescale got Dissonant Whispers), and Telepathic. Chromescale also took the Dragonfear feat. At high level they very rarely used weapons. They were all about control with Spike Growth, Dissonant Whispers, upcast Cause Fear and spamming concentration-free Summon Mirthful Fey. Against enemies that could be frightened, these were the best two control builds I have ever played, and I've played Wizards to 20th level. The combination of Summonning multiple Mirthful Fey, Beguiling Twist and Cause Fear (or Dragonfear feat) is freaking awesome. I don't think Chromescale ever made a weapon attack after 15th level. Lena did, but not often and usually in clean up mode. Once near games end, she did go to town TWF with daggers against an enemy caster in an anti-magic shell and decimated him. Lena was actually good in melee. She had a belt of Giant Strength, a Dragon Tooth dagger, 1d6 sneak attack, 1d6 Dreadful Strikes, and 1d8 Favored Foe if she was not concentrating, with advantage almost on demand from Nature's Viel. So her melee damage was not bad if she wanted to go into melee. It is just it was a lot more fun, and usually more effective, for her to control enemies. Lena was the most fun character I ever played bar none. The DM I played with was asked at a party in 2022 who was his favorite PC of the 20+ he had seen in our group until that time, and he named Lena as his favorite too. Getting rid of abilities that enable that and making the class more martial focused takes away this kind of creativity. Part of this too is Hunters Mark is just such a crappy spell both in terms of flavor and mechanics. If they gave us Hex instead I would be much happier. [/QUOTE]
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