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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 7337447" data-attributes="member: 6669384">I think option 3 works.&nbsp; Here's the scenario:You stand in the dark alley, waiting for the victim to come within reach.Grapple the person in the adjacent square.&nbsp; Per the rules you end up in that person's square&nbsp; This five foot move is free and doesn't count against your movement in the round.This is, by the way, the only way I know of to end your round in a space occupied by another medium sized character.That gives you the move-attack-move combo you sought.Discuss with the DM whether you can draw them into your square, instead of you moving into theirs.&nbsp; That would be a house rule, not a book rule, but if the DM agrees then you have your full&nbsp; scene right there.&nbsp; One thing I learned in reading up on this is that when the grappler and defender tie on their grapple checks, the tie doesn't go to the defender.&nbsp; I'd always heard that and played it that way.&nbsp; The tie goes to the one with the better grapple modifier.&nbsp; If it's still a tie then re-roll to break the tie.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 7337447, member: 6669384"] I think option 3 works. Here's the scenario: You stand in the dark alley, waiting for the victim to come within reach. Grapple the person in the adjacent square. Per the rules you end up in that person's square This five foot move is free and doesn't count against your movement in the round. This is, by the way, the only way I know of to end your round in a space occupied by another medium sized character. That gives you the move-attack-move combo you sought. Discuss with the DM whether you can draw them into your square, instead of you moving into theirs. That would be a house rule, not a book rule, but if the DM agrees then you have your full scene right there. One thing I learned in reading up on this is that when the grappler and defender tie on their grapple checks, the tie doesn't go to the defender. I'd always heard that and played it that way. The tie goes to the one with the better grapple modifier. If it's still a tie then re-roll to break the tie. [/QUOTE]

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