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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 1281136" data-attributes="member: 177">In the Tolkien text, both words are used for the same critters.&nbsp; In The Hobbit he seems to have used &quot;goblin&quot; more, in LotR he seems to have preferred &quot;orc&quot;.&nbsp; But both works use both words.IIRC, the Tolkien-elf word for orc is &quot;yrch&quot;.&nbsp; Ran into that coming from Legolas a couple times in my last read-through.I've always thought that the Tolkien terms &quot;orc&quot; and &quot;goblin&quot; covered pretty much everything a D&amp;D player would call a &quot;goblinoid&quot;.&nbsp; Tolkien is pretty clear that not all orcs are alike.&nbsp; And I could see the humans, dwarves, and elves not being all that picky about giving each &quot;breed&quot; a different name, especialy if the little, scuttley orcs (that has a D&amp;D goblin's stats) can interbreed with the big warrior orcs (that a D&amp;D player would call a hobgoblin or orc).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 1281136, member: 177"] In the Tolkien text, both words are used for the same critters. In [i]The Hobbit[/i] he seems to have used "goblin" more, in LotR he seems to have preferred "orc". But both works use both words. IIRC, the Tolkien-elf word for orc is "yrch". Ran into that coming from Legolas a couple times in my last read-through. I've always thought that the Tolkien terms "orc" and "goblin" covered pretty much everything a D&D player would call a "goblinoid". Tolkien is pretty clear that not all orcs are alike. And I could see the humans, dwarves, and elves not being all that picky about giving each "breed" a different name, especialy if the little, scuttley orcs (that has a D&D goblin's stats) can interbreed with the big warrior orcs (that a D&D player would call a hobgoblin or orc). [/QUOTE]

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