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Message: <blockquote data-quote="shagadm" data-source="post: 5885728" data-attributes="member: 6689136">Yes flying is a move action, and that move action allows you to move from 5ft to 100 feet (your maximum flying speed), but you have 0 altitude, because of poor maneuverability you can only move upwards at half speed and at a maximum degree of 45 angles. Now from the first 5 feet, I guess you could say you are flying, but unless you move at list half your flying speed, because of your minimmum forward speed (again because of poor maneuverability), you will fall 150ft down, witch is more than you could have climbed in your turn, thus failing to take off. So to summarize, you move at half speed, because you are climbing and you have to move at list 50ft or you  fail to stay up (for me that's failure to take off). Your move action lets you move 100ft, half of that is 50, so you will have to spend one move action (50ft) to take off and reach an altitude of 35ft and 35ft in front of the square you started your move. (remember when counting squares on your climb, that 45 angle is diagonal movement and therefore every 2nd square is 10ft).After that first move action you are at 35ft altitude and 35 ft ahead of your starting square. You could spend your standard action as move action and either continue to climb (again at half speed, 45 angle and remember to count every 2nd square as 10ft) or straighten-up and move 100ft ahead. Its sound easy but it really isn't, especially if you try to calculate all that while playing in a 4 players group and some of them are talking about what the will do on their turn (you are doing all that while the rest of the party is fighting), adding their own thoughts on how the flying movement should work, finding something to joke about the situation and/or possible arguing about the flying rules realism... gets even worse if you decide to also turn while you climb.So I understand you DM (which happens to be me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />) if he tries to simplify the rules and limit your flying combat manoeuvres only on large or opened areas and not in dungeons or other indoor areas (even if technically there is enough room), and instead focus in the more traditional combat.</blockquote>

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