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Message: <blockquote data-quote="jasamcarl" data-source="post: 659576" data-attributes="member: 1251">I would like to make it simple for all of those who hold that Wotc is changing the nature of the game and does not trust DM judgment. For one, if DM judgement is so dang important, than that invalidates the entire point of CR, which is to set up an objective measurement of challenge based upon presumably wider playtesting than the individual DM was capable of conduction. Two, the definition of a CR 16 creature is simple; he is suppossed to on average consume 25% of a 16th level parties resources. After much feedback, many have found that some high-level beasts do not accomplish this end, so it is reasonable to bump up their power. Wotc's latest monster supps reflect this reality.So assuming you wish to trust in the CR system at all, bumping up the challenge of some monsters to meet their CR seams perfectly reasonable. You can argue as to whether or not they have gone to far, but to opposse this on principle seems rather silly.</blockquote>