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[D&D 3.5e] That New Pit Fiend
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<blockquote data-quote="Leopold" data-source="post: 670404" data-attributes="member: 758"><p>Here's the kicker i have. The new revised info basically makes all the monster books, monster creation books, etc invalid. </p><p></p><p>Now before i start hearing rule 0, and "You don't have to use them!" or "convert them yourself!" flames. I want people to honestly sit down and look at what is being done to the monster process and layout.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No longer is it easy to say "Baatzu traits" and have it mean one thing. No doubt if devils and demons get a rework then so probably will celestials. DR is another key rework here no longer will it all be the same now it's going to vary unless there is a standarad setup and maintained. Your golem's might not have the uber 50/+3 anymore so this changes many things in many books (Tome of Horrors, Monster Handbook, Creature Catalog, etc.)</p><p></p><p>The purpose of the OGL is to establish a standard and stick to it. Now that this standard is getting reworked we are going to be stuck with a few scenarios.</p><p></p><p>1. The companies will work like mad and give us web errata on how their monsters will now look and work.</p><p></p><p>2. The companies will do nothing.</p><p></p><p>3. The companies will rework the monsters and put out revised books.</p><p></p><p>2 of the 3 scenarios will cost companies time and money to do. It won't be easy doing this to convert thousands of monsters over to the new system. This will take time. 2 of the 3 are a lose for the DM's/Players as they will either have no material or they will have to flip between printed pages and new pages. Only 1 of the 3 is a lose/lose for everyone as that means that they won't be doing anything to 'fix' the new problem.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I like having a revision of the rules, sure it's great, but seriously this is going to be a PIA for everyone unless they either adopt the new system fully and convert by hand or just ignore the system and stick with the original. Going 50/50 may present some problems but that will remain to be seen.</p><p></p><p>I only hope and pray companies are looking into this and planning to revise their work and their products with the new system coming into place as per the OGL/D20STL</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Leopold, post: 670404, member: 758"] Here's the kicker i have. The new revised info basically makes all the monster books, monster creation books, etc invalid. Now before i start hearing rule 0, and "You don't have to use them!" or "convert them yourself!" flames. I want people to honestly sit down and look at what is being done to the monster process and layout. No longer is it easy to say "Baatzu traits" and have it mean one thing. No doubt if devils and demons get a rework then so probably will celestials. DR is another key rework here no longer will it all be the same now it's going to vary unless there is a standarad setup and maintained. Your golem's might not have the uber 50/+3 anymore so this changes many things in many books (Tome of Horrors, Monster Handbook, Creature Catalog, etc.) The purpose of the OGL is to establish a standard and stick to it. Now that this standard is getting reworked we are going to be stuck with a few scenarios. 1. The companies will work like mad and give us web errata on how their monsters will now look and work. 2. The companies will do nothing. 3. The companies will rework the monsters and put out revised books. 2 of the 3 scenarios will cost companies time and money to do. It won't be easy doing this to convert thousands of monsters over to the new system. This will take time. 2 of the 3 are a lose for the DM's/Players as they will either have no material or they will have to flip between printed pages and new pages. Only 1 of the 3 is a lose/lose for everyone as that means that they won't be doing anything to 'fix' the new problem. I like having a revision of the rules, sure it's great, but seriously this is going to be a PIA for everyone unless they either adopt the new system fully and convert by hand or just ignore the system and stick with the original. Going 50/50 may present some problems but that will remain to be seen. I only hope and pray companies are looking into this and planning to revise their work and their products with the new system coming into place as per the OGL/D20STL [/QUOTE]
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