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<blockquote data-quote="Smoss" data-source="post: 5266779" data-attributes="member: 82115">For *me*, I liked 3e but I wanted something better.&nbsp; I liked SW Saga and that got me excited for 4e hoping that was its direction.&nbsp; When I saw and played 4e, I was disappointed - It was not the game that *I* wanted to play.&nbsp; Some of the ideas were nice, but it did not fit.&nbsp; 3e felt too complex and &quot;buggy&quot; to me after playing Saga.So I made my own system.&nbsp; Then I got a hold of Pathfinder.&nbsp; It seemed no better than 3e for complexity of play and bookkeeping.&nbsp; Plus it tried to solve problems like grapple and such in a way that did not seem elegant enough for *me*.&nbsp; Probably mostly because I had used my rules enough by then that other systems just didn't meet up to my needs.Heck, I just played in a game of SW Saga yesterday after making a character the day before.&nbsp; Character creation and play all felt clunky to me now compared to how *I* like it.&nbsp; So I have evolved away from the standard games to rules I like better.&nbsp; Originally based on those rules...&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Of course, this is just me and what *I* like.&nbsp; Others certainly have their own tastes.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />-------------------------------------Smoss<a href="http://sites.google.com/site/doulairen/" target="_blank">Doulairen</a></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Smoss, post: 5266779, member: 82115"] For *me*, I liked 3e but I wanted something better. I liked SW Saga and that got me excited for 4e hoping that was its direction. When I saw and played 4e, I was disappointed - It was not the game that *I* wanted to play. Some of the ideas were nice, but it did not fit. 3e felt too complex and "buggy" to me after playing Saga. So I made my own system. Then I got a hold of Pathfinder. It seemed no better than 3e for complexity of play and bookkeeping. Plus it tried to solve problems like grapple and such in a way that did not seem elegant enough for *me*. Probably mostly because I had used my rules enough by then that other systems just didn't meet up to my needs. Heck, I just played in a game of SW Saga yesterday after making a character the day before. Character creation and play all felt clunky to me now compared to how *I* like it. So I have evolved away from the standard games to rules I like better. Originally based on those rules... :) Of course, this is just me and what *I* like. Others certainly have their own tastes. :) ------------------------------------- Smoss [url=http://sites.google.com/site/doulairen/]Doulairen[/url] [/QUOTE]

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