Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
D&D 3.x gamers who skipped 4e, why are you not "upgrading" to Pathfinder?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="gamerprinter" data-source="post: 5267366" data-attributes="member: 50895"><p>I think what is "backwards compatible" is being able to use a 3e adventure with almost no change whatsoever - I do tweak the BBEG and major NPCs to be more PF flavored, but most of the monsters I leave alone and the difference is hardly in existence.</p><p></p><p>Regarding the classes there's a four page conversion rules that shows you how to tweak a 3.5 anything to better fit Pathfinder, and some of the socalled over-powered classes in the 3e splats are now fitting just right in PF. The conversion between old characters to new is slight at best. So I think Starman's point was right on. Its one thing to look at the rules and say its a different game. Play one session and you'll see its the same game.</p><p></p><p>GP</p><p></p><p>PS: to me the reasoning Paizo created PF is not to remake 3.5, but to have a system on the FLGS shelves that supports their APs, when WotC removed the 3e books from the distribution channels, their APs were doomed. You can't sell or even distribute products to an FLGS without a current system, so they had to make 3.5 current again, which is what they did. But since they had to reprint it anyway (and spend money doing it), might as well do some tweaks for improvement. I don't think they did it to change the game so much as keeping their business a viable one.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gamerprinter, post: 5267366, member: 50895"] I think what is "backwards compatible" is being able to use a 3e adventure with almost no change whatsoever - I do tweak the BBEG and major NPCs to be more PF flavored, but most of the monsters I leave alone and the difference is hardly in existence. Regarding the classes there's a four page conversion rules that shows you how to tweak a 3.5 anything to better fit Pathfinder, and some of the socalled over-powered classes in the 3e splats are now fitting just right in PF. The conversion between old characters to new is slight at best. So I think Starman's point was right on. Its one thing to look at the rules and say its a different game. Play one session and you'll see its the same game. GP PS: to me the reasoning Paizo created PF is not to remake 3.5, but to have a system on the FLGS shelves that supports their APs, when WotC removed the 3e books from the distribution channels, their APs were doomed. You can't sell or even distribute products to an FLGS without a current system, so they had to make 3.5 current again, which is what they did. But since they had to reprint it anyway (and spend money doing it), might as well do some tweaks for improvement. I don't think they did it to change the game so much as keeping their business a viable one. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
D&D 3.x gamers who skipped 4e, why are you not "upgrading" to Pathfinder?
Top