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D&D 3.x gamers who skipped 4e, why are you not "upgrading" to Pathfinder?
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<blockquote data-quote="Oryan77" data-source="post: 5268618" data-attributes="member: 18701"><p>I am sticking with 3.5 for the following reasons:</p><p></p><p>1. I've played 3.5 long enough that I know the rules well enough to keep players from arguing with me most of the time. I'd rather spend my time prepping games than learning new rules.</p><p></p><p>2. Regardless of what anyone says, I think the 3.5 rules work perfectly fine as long as you don't have players trying to abuse them. I can use the 3.5 rules to resolve anything quickly and with little trouble. I don't care to learn an entire set of new rules just so I can resolve something just a little bit faster (and the new system probably has it's own share of problematic rules).</p><p></p><p>3. Pathfinder seemed to have taken the same road as 4e by thinking that, "less is more" as if that makes things better. I don't necessarily agree with that. For Pathfinder, it's the skill list I have issues with. I prefer my bigger skill list. I think 3.5 did it perfectly. Combining the skills into fewer skills makes things too generic for me. I think having more options gives us the ability to make more unique and individualistic characters; and that is something I enjoy out of D&D.</p><p></p><p>4. I have put a lot of work into my 3.5 campaign. At this point in time, I have so many awesome bits of information in my Excel file that I have cut my prep time down a lot. I have many reference tabs for different things. I have even created tons of rules in order to run a 3.5 Planescape game (Faction affiliation rules, planar effect rules). And I have an incredible list of monster conversions that people have made for 3.5. Tweaking this stuff for PF doesn't seem worth the effort and will make me feel like my time over the years has been wasted.</p><p></p><p>5. I have tons of books for 3.5. I don't think I could really use them all with PF. I also don't need to buy new books. I have more than enough material to run pretty much whatever kind of D&D game I want.</p><p></p><p>This doesn't mean I don't like Pathfinder though. I actually bought the PF Core book because I have considered integrating the classes from it (because I was told they are much better).</p><p></p><p>I'm not looking to switch from 3.5, but I don't mind using other editions with my 3.5 if it will improve my 3.5 game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oryan77, post: 5268618, member: 18701"] I am sticking with 3.5 for the following reasons: 1. I've played 3.5 long enough that I know the rules well enough to keep players from arguing with me most of the time. I'd rather spend my time prepping games than learning new rules. 2. Regardless of what anyone says, I think the 3.5 rules work perfectly fine as long as you don't have players trying to abuse them. I can use the 3.5 rules to resolve anything quickly and with little trouble. I don't care to learn an entire set of new rules just so I can resolve something just a little bit faster (and the new system probably has it's own share of problematic rules). 3. Pathfinder seemed to have taken the same road as 4e by thinking that, "less is more" as if that makes things better. I don't necessarily agree with that. For Pathfinder, it's the skill list I have issues with. I prefer my bigger skill list. I think 3.5 did it perfectly. Combining the skills into fewer skills makes things too generic for me. I think having more options gives us the ability to make more unique and individualistic characters; and that is something I enjoy out of D&D. 4. I have put a lot of work into my 3.5 campaign. At this point in time, I have so many awesome bits of information in my Excel file that I have cut my prep time down a lot. I have many reference tabs for different things. I have even created tons of rules in order to run a 3.5 Planescape game (Faction affiliation rules, planar effect rules). And I have an incredible list of monster conversions that people have made for 3.5. Tweaking this stuff for PF doesn't seem worth the effort and will make me feel like my time over the years has been wasted. 5. I have tons of books for 3.5. I don't think I could really use them all with PF. I also don't need to buy new books. I have more than enough material to run pretty much whatever kind of D&D game I want. This doesn't mean I don't like Pathfinder though. I actually bought the PF Core book because I have considered integrating the classes from it (because I was told they are much better). I'm not looking to switch from 3.5, but I don't mind using other editions with my 3.5 if it will improve my 3.5 game. [/QUOTE]
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