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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7905285" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Oh, 3.5 just needed a WoCLW to make the adventuring day - CoDzilla would break it. ;P </p><p></p><p>And 1e/2e, they gave the cleric enough healing to see the party through a rough patch or two, even at 1st level. Without one? Good luck.</p><p>I never got the impression B/X was /that/ different (the way people talk about it, you'd think it bore no resemblance at all to the rest of D&D), though if it err'd on the side of 0e with even the Cleric not bringing you any healing at 1st, or if it had more rapid natural healing....</p><p></p><p>...but, this discussion also gets into campaign pacing. For you 'just fine' might include backing off from a dungeon or other dangerous challenge for days or weeks of recuperation, prettymuch as a matter of course, without excessive spoilsport consequences, I assume. For other DMs, 'just fine' means they keep time pressure bearing down on the party so they don't dare pause more than an hour in their adventure lest everything explode in the their faces...</p><p></p><p>...and that's "fine" - I mean, you run the edition with the system artifacts you're accustomed to and the party composition that fits your style, and your campaign cruises along at 6-8 days per encounter or 6-8 encounters per day, or whatever other knife's-edge it all comes together and works at, and you wonder how anyone else gets those <em>other</em> games to work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7905285, member: 996"] Oh, 3.5 just needed a WoCLW to make the adventuring day - CoDzilla would break it. ;P And 1e/2e, they gave the cleric enough healing to see the party through a rough patch or two, even at 1st level. Without one? Good luck. I never got the impression B/X was /that/ different (the way people talk about it, you'd think it bore no resemblance at all to the rest of D&D), though if it err'd on the side of 0e with even the Cleric not bringing you any healing at 1st, or if it had more rapid natural healing.... ...but, this discussion also gets into campaign pacing. For you 'just fine' might include backing off from a dungeon or other dangerous challenge for days or weeks of recuperation, prettymuch as a matter of course, without excessive spoilsport consequences, I assume. For other DMs, 'just fine' means they keep time pressure bearing down on the party so they don't dare pause more than an hour in their adventure lest everything explode in the their faces... ...and that's "fine" - I mean, you run the edition with the system artifacts you're accustomed to and the party composition that fits your style, and your campaign cruises along at 6-8 days per encounter or 6-8 encounters per day, or whatever other knife's-edge it all comes together and works at, and you wonder how anyone else gets those [I]other[/I] games to work. [/QUOTE]
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