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<blockquote data-quote="glass" data-source="post: 1325650" data-attributes="member: 12251"><p>Hi these are my wishes a 4th edition:</p><p></p><p>Released 2009-10.</p><p></p><p>Vancian magic retained, at least for 'wizards'. Probably ditch it for clerics, and definately for rangers and paladins.</p><p></p><p>Keep the current arrangement of 4 'core' general classes plus a few oddballs. It may not make much sense, but it is D&D and I like it!</p><p></p><p>An end to the strange notion that inborn talent and years of study are mutually exclusive. I think that sorcerer should be a feat of feat chain. There should still be two kinds of primary arcane caster: one vancian and one not, but they should be more different (and either should be able to benefit from the sorcerer feat, of other inborn talent spellcasting boosters - there should be a few).</p><p></p><p>Mages should be far and away better spallcasters than cleric and druids (or anyone else). Possibly include 10th level arcane spells at 19th/20th level.</p><p></p><p>Include a lot more feats in general, both per character and to choose from. Every class should get at least a few bonus feats, from a class specific list (fighters should probably still get the most).</p><p></p><p>All feats should be available to all classes although some classes could possibly get a discount on prereqs (for example, fighters can get weapon spec 2 points of bab earlier or whatever). If it is unique to one class, it should be a class ability, not a feat. </p><p></p><p>Every class should also get unique (or semi-unique) class abilities, at every few levels throughout there carreer, either fixed or from a palette or path (depending on which class).</p><p></p><p>Oh, and noone should have d4 HD! Except maybe some caster PrCs.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>glass.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="glass, post: 1325650, member: 12251"] Hi these are my wishes a 4th edition: Released 2009-10. Vancian magic retained, at least for 'wizards'. Probably ditch it for clerics, and definately for rangers and paladins. Keep the current arrangement of 4 'core' general classes plus a few oddballs. It may not make much sense, but it is D&D and I like it! An end to the strange notion that inborn talent and years of study are mutually exclusive. I think that sorcerer should be a feat of feat chain. There should still be two kinds of primary arcane caster: one vancian and one not, but they should be more different (and either should be able to benefit from the sorcerer feat, of other inborn talent spellcasting boosters - there should be a few). Mages should be far and away better spallcasters than cleric and druids (or anyone else). Possibly include 10th level arcane spells at 19th/20th level. Include a lot more feats in general, both per character and to choose from. Every class should get at least a few bonus feats, from a class specific list (fighters should probably still get the most). All feats should be available to all classes although some classes could possibly get a discount on prereqs (for example, fighters can get weapon spec 2 points of bab earlier or whatever). If it is unique to one class, it should be a class ability, not a feat. Every class should also get unique (or semi-unique) class abilities, at every few levels throughout there carreer, either fixed or from a palette or path (depending on which class). Oh, and noone should have d4 HD! Except maybe some caster PrCs. glass. [/QUOTE]
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